From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 15 01:29:16 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6B50FA3C for ; Fri, 15 May 2015 01:29:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from homiemail-a59.g.dreamhost.com (sub5.mail.dreamhost.com [208.113.200.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 502351E17 for ; Fri, 15 May 2015 01:29:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from homiemail-a59.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a59.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E9DB564057; Thu, 14 May 2015 18:29:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=ozzmosis.com; h=date:from :to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version:content-type: in-reply-to; s=ozzmosis.com; bh=2PW4WSxH62JyMY3DxtXI7HvLTas=; b= HA6cPxRZd0GqLDL/U9ExdfQ+M1YCJCo8Q2vg3y6bu4lxZK0cqWCroxMpIau4w5TX XzunUCP4hu1B2W2LfM61K9fGPFcU7kVcXsFhzqgrJ5gQn59XUZiMwdQvSfOHKid7 O0RhOAcB5+w/BWxCrqgzoMaWZz2zoaCi/IykCooO844= Received: from blizzard.ozzmosis.com (114-198-82-4.dyn.iinet.net.au [114.198.82.4]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: relay@ozzmosis.com) by homiemail-a59.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5D569564055; Thu, 14 May 2015 18:29:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by blizzard.ozzmosis.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 023115FA5; Fri, 15 May 2015 11:29:11 +1000 (AEST) Date: Fri, 15 May 2015 11:29:11 +1000 From: andrew clarke To: Jeffry Killen Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Returning to FreeBSD Message-ID: <20150515012911.GA78765@ozzmosis.com> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 May 2015 01:29:16 -0000 On Thu 2015-05-14 12:59:05 UTC-0700, Jeffry Killen (jekillen@prodigy.net) wrote: > I have had experience installing, configuring, and adding various > server software packages to FreeBSD. But the last version I have > experience with is 6.2. I still have various hardware configurations > that are from that era. > > The current questions: > How useful is the latest edition of Absolute FreeBSD? I see 3rd > edition available, but on the authors web site, version 7.0 is > mentioned, and I see that the current version is up to 10. > > I can look at hardware compatibility with respect to current version > but in general, will hardware that vintage be compatible? Later, I can > get newer components. You should be fine there. FreeBSD (and Linux to a large extent) tends to support hardware long past its expected working life. Surprisingly, assuming the documentation is accurate, FreeBSD 10.1 will still run on vintage 80486 machines: https://www.freebsd.org/releases/10.1R/hardware.html Although, I suspect the GENERIC kernel requires more memory to boot than any 486 motherboard could ever support. I'd estimate you'd need at least 32 MB just to boot the kernel and another 32 MB to run the installer. That's assuming you had a way to boot from the install CD on a 486 class machine. OTOH I suppose there are 80486 virtual machines (QEMU?) that could provide a reasonable memory footprint for modern FreeBSD to run as a guest machine. All fairly academic though, given that Pentium-class PCs have been the standard since about 1995! Probably the biggest difference you'll encounter since FreeBSD 6.2 is the move from pkg_add etc to pkgng. http://www.bsdnow.tv/tutorials/pkgng Also, Poudriere may be worth a look if you intend on building your own ports, although the system of running "make" etc from within /usr/ports/ still works fine. Also, CVS is no longer used, replaced by SVN. Also, you can use freebsd-update to do in-place binary upgrades to newer versions of FreeBSD. I'm not sure upgrading from FreeBSD 6.3 is possible (or recommended) with freebsd-update, but it works nicely with newer versions (FreeBSD 8.x onwards). Regards Andrew