From owner-freebsd-current Tue Dec 10 14:50:17 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48F9537B406 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 14:50:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.identd.net (matrix.identd.net [64.172.21.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 45D1B43EDA for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 14:50:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mtm@identd.net) Received: (qmail 22426 invoked by uid 1007); 10 Dec 2002 22:50:14 -0000 Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 14:50:14 -0800 From: Mike Makonnen To: "Daniel C. Sobral" Cc: Gordon Tetlow , current@freebsd.org, obrien@freebsd.org, Doug Barton Subject: Re: RC NG, ntp and routed Message-ID: <20021210225014.GA22267@matrix.identd.net> References: <3DF4996E.1040706@tcoip.com.br> <20021210024350.GC16008@matrix.identd.net> <20021210162208.GJ45512@roark.gnf.org> <3DF61DE4.9070205@tcoip.com.br> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ew6BAiZeqk4r7MaW" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3DF61DE4.9070205@tcoip.com.br> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD/4.7-STABLE (i386) Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --ew6BAiZeqk4r7MaW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 03:01:24PM -0200, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: > On another note, I thought the patch a bit excessive. Here, I just added= =20 > BEFORE: ntpd to routed. OTOH, it seems that patch did a bit more. It's not excessive. It's the correct solution.=20 Your solution solves your specific problem but it's not the right way to go about solving the problem. It's kind of hard to explain, you have to work with it for a while to get the hang of it. For some things it might be easier _and_ right to say this must come before that. In this case; however, ntpd requires that routing be available as a= =20 prerequisite, but there's no real relationship that exists between the two that necessitates routed having to know about ntpd. If we were to follow your example to its logical conclusion the BEFORE line for the routing daemons would have to include _every_ daemon that requires network availability. I think in this case it would be more correct to have the network daemons REQUIRE the routing daemons. Does that make sense? Cheers. --=20 Mike Makonnen | GPG-KEY: http://www.identd.net/~mtm/mtm.asc mtm@identd.net | Fingerprint: D228 1A6F C64E 120A A1C9 A3AA DAE1 E2AF DBCC= 68B9 --ew6BAiZeqk4r7MaW Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE99m+l2uHir9vMaLkRAsAeAJ0RQOH6JI0L9H1DqP799j/XnshScACbB3aY 3FyZRr+ioIuD82fGkOuiKFk= =S7Pw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ew6BAiZeqk4r7MaW-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message