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From: Thomas David Rivers <ponds!rivers@dg-rtp.dg.com>
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To: roberto@keltia.freenix.fr, ponds!freefall.freebsd.org!freebsd-hackers
Subject: Re: Another data point in the daily panics...
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> 
> According to Mikael Karpberg:
> > Then again, I know a friends 2.1.5 machine rebooted after running 30
> > seconds of "crashme". Firing up _40_ at boot time, just for kicks,
> 
> I've never run 40 at a time but I've never been able to take any version of
> FreeBSD down with crashme. Even 386BSD 0.1 + patchkit was immune !
> 
> I remember running it on 386BSD for 30 minutes and killing because it was
> boring. To be completely honest, Linux is generally immune too (haven't
> tried recently though).

 Yes - that's probably the case here.

 Consider, for example, that crashme can run on some machines,
but you can bring them down quickly with the well-known "ping attack."

 I'm betting that crashme won't show us anything and FreeBSD will
pass this test with flying colors.  However, I will still be experiencing
my panics.

 Let me add that I'm not sure my problems are the hardware; as:

	1) This problem didn't show up until 2.1.

	2) This problem does show up with an aha1542B  as well
	    as IDE drive

	- Dave Rivers -