From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 17 21:35:01 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9317016A4CE; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:35:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-02-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91D2643F93; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:34:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jason@ec.rr.com) Received: from ec.rr.com (cpe-024-211-231-149.ec.rr.com [24.211.231.149]) hAI5YwKB022951; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 00:34:58 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3FB9AF72.4080500@ec.rr.com> From: Jason User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031205 Thunderbird/0.3 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bryan Cassidy References: <20031117200108.66f53bcb.b_cassidy@bellsouth.net> <200311171923.16288.soralx@cydem.org.ua> <20031117231749.752eb920.b_cassidy@bellsouth.net> In-Reply-To: <20031117231749.752eb920.b_cassidy@bellsouth.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New parts for new PC (need help - little knowledge of hardware) X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 05:35:01 -0000 X-Original-Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 00:34:42 -0500 X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 05:35:01 -0000 Bryan Cassidy wrote: >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >Hash: SHA1 > >Oh no. I must have explained myself wrong. $400.00 is just for starters. >I know for a fact I'm gonna buy that case so that leaves me with say >$300.00 to be on the safe side. Besides the case I would like the >motherboard to be the first actual piece of hardware I buy. Meaning the >motherboard could be $300.00 is it is well worth putting into a new >system. I just want to get the best performance in all ways when using >FreeBSD on a daily bases, as a server, maybe do some video/image >editing, playing dvds, don't really care about games on the pc but would >like some crips clean graphics when using X and it's applications, and >ANYTHING that I might want to get into later on FreeBSD I want to be >able to do it fast and use the features the hardware offers that FreeBSD >supports. I like doing anything and everything pretty much on FreeBSD. I >just love it. It's just that I want a new machine, I will most likely >pick up new things to do under FreeBSD and want to do it with the full >capabilities the OS offers. Like i said, $400.00 is just for starters. I >am getting the case from Antec for sure, the motherboard I'm sure I want >to go with ASUS could cost $300.00 and break even with $400.00 for the >first FEW parts I am getting. The reason I am building the PC is to >learn about hardware mainly and to have more fun with FreeBSD of course. >So, the things that I will be doing on FreeBSD are not limited to just >using Sylpheed, Opera etc. I might pick up something new tomorrow, see a >feature that FreeBSD offers to make more out of my machine but my >hardware just doesn't have it. I hope I made myself more clear this >time. > >On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:23:16 -0700 > wrote: > > If thats the case I highly recommend a computer based on the amd 64bit platform. With this setup you can do everything as normal, but when 5.2 is released you get to have a 64bit machine and os. That is unless you run current. The 64bits can give you over a 100% increase in encryption and compresion software at the same clock as a 32bit athlon, tar.gz files are a comman example of compression you would use. Software video compresion is improved, but not as much. You should check out amdzone.com, as well as any other good hardware site for some goodbench marks. I would not recommend tomshardware.com. There are some dual opteron server boards for over $500 that let you have 16 gigs of ram(great for dvd and hdtv video editing), as well as a built in ultra wide scsi 320 controller. I read an article of scsi vs ide somewhere recently, basic it came down to this. A ~500mhz p2 daul sever with a 160 scsi controller and 320 disk vs a p4 at 3 or 2.8 ghz with ide raid. The test was to open an email client that stores old emails as seperate files, the aurther had 50,000 on both machines. The verdict: the p4 took about 7.5 mins, the scsi machine took 28 seconds. So if you want to edit video and do it fast go with scsi. It must be pretty obvious by now I have scsi envy because I'm stuck with a 40gig mator at 133mb/s(Advertised!). I would go with an all in wonder ati video card. They now can capture hd with componet in the 9800 is the fastest consumer card on the market now. If you add up all the free video editing software you get for windows(worth maybe something to a windows user) and half life 2 they are giving away with some card models, it is a great deal. If your motherboard is an nforce with soundstorm, you don't need a sound card. If it is not I would recomend some soundblaster just because they are well supported. But you could pick any sound card that is listed as supported in the handbook and erratta. Lcds are great for graphics, if you don't need the high resolution or refresh rates. I'm sure today there are some good lcds out, but to do everything a crt does you will need to spend a lot of money, and I think that would be better used on a faster video card or a second cpu.