From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 13:00:27 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0C30106564A; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 13:00:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25F138FC16; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 13:00:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mart.js.berklix.net (pD9FBEE73.dip.t-dialin.net [217.251.238.115]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id pBED0P6D085925; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 13:00:25 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by mart.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id pBED0ETH070771; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 14:00:14 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id pBED08ov002173; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 14:00:14 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201112141300.pBED08ov002173@fire.js.berklix.net> To: Julian Elischer From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://www.berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://www.berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Tue, 13 Dec 2011 21:29:48 PST." <4EE8344C.2070509@freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 14:00:08 +0100 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: Doug Barton , freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CVS removal from the base X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 13:00:27 -0000 From: Doug Barton > >> Having things in ports doesn't make them less available. :) >From "Julian H. Stacey" > > It didn't used to. It risks it now, since in last months, some > > ports/ have been targeted by a few rogue commiters purging, who > > want to toss ports out from one release to another without warning > > of a DEPRECATED= in previous release Makefiles. From: Julian Elischer > which brings up teh possibility of 1st class ports.. which are kept > more as part of the system.. > (sorry for sounding like a broken record..) Interesting idea, to bounce the idea around a bit: It would extend the spectrum to /usr/src/ ..Most.. /usr/src/ contrib 1st class ports ... in src or ports or elsewhere ? ... (if elsewhere, work to reconfig mirrors & to. doc new struct later) /usr/ports currently 22906 An empty current ports tree takes 485 M (& a lot of inodes which occasionaly trips people). A current src tree takes 705 M Ports has lots of commiters Src has less & partly different commiters & stricter watched & more release aligned. Maybe sometime we will see a project arise that will be a replacement ports/ for more than one BSD, perhaps even extending to Linux, (to avoid reinventing of the wheel that must go on with ports skeletal structs for each OS) ( maybe with an RFC for a port/ skeleton struct ? If so, that may have ramifications on bits of src moved to ports. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, & indent with "> ". Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. EU tax to kill London Vetoed http://berklix.com/~jhs/blog/2011_12_11