From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 23 13:47:47 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from valis.olywa.net (valis.olywa.net [216.173.192.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C0F137B403 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2002 13:47:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from intrepid.snowpoint.com ([216.173.213.173]) by valis.olywa.net (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-56662U5000L500S0V35) with ESMTP id net for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2002 13:47:34 -0700 Received: from ([216.173.213.172]) by intrepid.snowpoint.com (Merak 4.10.020) with SMTP id HUB36795; Sun, 23 Jun 2002 13:42:52 -0700 From: "Corey Snow" To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, pjklist@ekahuna.com Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 13:47:40 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Spam problem on the list (Was: Re: URGENT) Cc: Ruben de Groot Message-ID: <3D15D17C.26108.158E3FFA@localhost> References: In-reply-to: <20020623122518970.AAA709@empty1.ekahuna.com@pc02.ekahuna.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 23 Jun 2002, at 5:25, Philip J. Koenig wrote: > > In the ultimate irony (or perhaps more accurately, in the ultimate > obviousness), the message that immediately followed Ruben's in the > last digest, and which took up fully 70% of the entire digest, was > yet another spam, complete with a nice big file attachment. > I have to voice my agreement with the "lock it down or lock it out" mentality. I think it's great that the FreeBSD lists are open for posting by anyone, but my opinion is that for such a service to exist (and don't get me wrong, I think it's a great service, and indicative of the level the FreeBSD community is willing to go to to support their platfrom) it must be balanced with some more granular administration. I'd recommend that more admins be assigned or roped into the administration of the list. The list shouldn't be moderated but there should be a faster response when something like this happens- if a single virus is sent to the list from some hapless bastard's hacked/infected machine, that probably shouldn't induce a LARTing- after all, he or she has to clean up the mess on their machine themseleves, and I think we can be tolerant of the occasional problem. But about the third virus sent from the "Jan Van Der Berg" account at xs4all.nl should have been responded to with a blackholing of at least that account if not the entire domain until such time as the issue was resolved. That indicates to me that we need more administration presence, because it isn't realistic to assume that a single or small group of admins are going to be continuously monitoring the list. Nor is it fair to expect that, because they're not getting paid. :) I very nearly unsubscribed because of the volume of mail I was getting. It wasn't going to overwhelm my servers or anything but it was really aggravating. I'm sure that a number of other people simply dropped their subscriptions, which doesn't help the FreeBSD community at all. Anyway, just my opinions. I've only been on the list and running FreeBSD for a couple of weeks now, so take that for what it's worth. :-) Corey To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message