From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Aug 16 06:48:28 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0EAE3B2F36 for ; Sun, 16 Aug 2020 06:48:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dr.klepp@gmx.at) Received: from vie01a-dmta-at50-2.mx.upcmail.net (vie01a-dmta-at50-2.mx.upcmail.net [62.179.121.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4BTnnR5XcCz3yrc for ; Sun, 16 Aug 2020 06:48:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dr.klepp@gmx.at) Received: from [172.31.216.41] (helo=vie01a-pemc-psmtp-at50) by vie01a-dmta-at50.mx.upcmail.net with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1k7CSv-0001tp-1C for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 16 Aug 2020 08:48:25 +0200 Received: from x61.lan ([85.126.97.210]) by vie01a-pemc-psmtp-at50 with SMTP @ mailcloud.upcmail.net id G6oQ230134YLlkt0B6oQUK; Sun, 16 Aug 2020 08:48:25 +0200 X-SourceIP: 85.126.97.210 X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.2 cv=O6RJhF1W c=1 sm=2 tr=0 cx=a_idp_f a=/Ac8Q0O/YFE5LOLfUiYZVw==:117 a=/Ac8Q0O/YFE5LOLfUiYZVw==:17 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=9NRnQGfMo6NUqrwDdyMA:9 a=FxDsUOEusXXTpLoQ:21 a=wz6XByld-VNEKYhG:21 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 From: "Dr. Nikolaus Klepp" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A nice looking WM to replace a DE Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2020 08:48:25 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <20200816054351.GA26926@admin.sibptus.ru> In-Reply-To: <20200816054351.GA26926@admin.sibptus.ru> X-KMail-QuotePrefix: > MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <202008160848.25695.dr.klepp@gmx.at> ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1597560508; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=myQUvrWEhfiYzLM5dT5+XuuphV1UldpOsa/VTm7jHtQ=; b=dFx4yukztx/BNuNglQrADdRdtYyRSU5KcfeX5JG8OKuii2cxn6HSKcHhN3HXnlPAnbaI/6 idnxLwdHoAEZ3vYAcnYeqXG1+y6uHbE1PVkbRABw1inTftODZOwus8yF8N5xM4jRJiK6sk Hoeoq+PPPVCW/o6KHFyhdbNL9nb9G6RsgG0w3EPNgPDpUcSNWNfRUwDz1PK3To4NwbIrQI aE+LZfrRC8rTg11qgrcWZSuLGSr+rk5waNmxceR7K2rGkxuK0Jmh69YCka0D/lQmWt/kx3 D7N9Ks+9FlLIw0DY2cREFuenVOgoCUGJfreFEBi8NcMZEg/zLRPh6oxa+MFFvw== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1597560508; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=uo2WTzSOrbTh++UBdlogEeYJkHHi5lY5HE7c5YYZ/f68ZQaQrObeeDr0IllBp/FoBQEeam U8jpdKVc4uPSNM9YHBxck0fG/oH7c4PdJ8c5fae/TcAGdHjcnI55mJYfoOhgS8gHe16sCN fKP/8NSPb/XeWgJNkOUMDOZoLNe2spcnMa47pldkpd7xqRGCUJnFhatnV9COr5nh7sBJFH 5yEbTeopQOohlzfSs5hS8yKvfujE37BF3yYoD0A7+Ki83oyOwtgWWk1AV+6uQO6OrTD3wV ZHDH5UvW3HTJ+7VidbMDpeJp5bV2Pj4THRM7feKOuT8DyZUpiPrO+DcmWFAwZw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; spf=fail (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of dr.klepp@gmx.at does not designate 62.179.121.137 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=dr.klepp@gmx.at X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4BTnnR5XcCz3yrc X-Spamd-Bar: +++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=fail (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of dr.klepp@gmx.at does not designate 62.179.121.137 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=dr.klepp@gmx.at X-Spamd-Result: default: False [5.03 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_SPF_FAIL(1.00)[-all]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmx.at]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; ARC_SIGNED(0.00)[i=1]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.85)[0.848]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[gmx.at]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.40)[0.403]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.97)[0.974]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; FROM_NAME_HAS_TITLE(1.00)[dr]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6830, ipnet:62.179.0.0/17, country:AT]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmx.at]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[62.179.121.137:from] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2020 06:48:29 -0000 Anno domini 2020 Sun, 16 Aug 12:43:51 +0700 Victor Sudakov scripsit: > Dear Colleagues, > > There is a box where I'd like to ditch Xfce for a more simple setup with > just a window manager (WM) and a couple of xterms. This would set the > resources free from the gnome-shit which Xfce runs in the background. > Is it still possible? > > If you run this kind of configuration, can you answer some questions for > me? > > 1. What good-looking WM would you recommend from the ports? I had a > quick look at fvwm and was appalled how dated and ugly it looks to the > modern eye. Even twm is better aesthetically but not rich enough > for me. A minimal number of dependencies is an advantage. > > 2. Without a full-featured DE, how do you setup Xserver parameters? I've > long forgotten how to configure multiple keyboard layouts, nice fonts, > various hotkeys (layout switching etc). Is it still done via the global > xorg.conf or is it possible on a per-user basis? > > So, please share your success stories. > > @1: "good looking" is in the eye of the observer. I have FVWM and TDE (which is not in ports) running. @2: you have a text editor, so what else do you need? 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