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Message-ID: <20210210170247.52853d16@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <8b80d4a7-3fd3-b032-6d19-a940b3e736c4@panix.com> References: <25de0d19-1bb6-610f-c0cb-ef7721086902@panix.com> <24606.3187.85211.65015@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <587ffb90-4041-7e96-f9f7-0f0ff8827587@yuripv.dev> <20210209145843.079389a3@gumby.homeunix.com> <8b80d4a7-3fd3-b032-6d19-a940b3e736c4@panix.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.8 (GTK+ 2.24.33; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DbR0B5j73z4l2Q X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[googlemail.com]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[googlemail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[googlemail.com,quarantine]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::32e:from]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[googlemail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[googlemail.com:dkim]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[googlemail.com:s=20161025]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[92.15.61.44:received]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::32e:from:127.0.2.255]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::32e:from]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2021 17:02:51 -0000 On Tue, 9 Feb 2021 14:30:24 -0500 Kurt Hackenberg wrote: > On 2/9/21 9:58 AM, RW via freebsd-questions wrote: > > > I only use this gmail account for mailing list and only with a > > traditional MUA. I don't see any ads or give them anything that > > isn't already public. > > Google knows who you are across your use of all their services, by > identifying your computer(s). A separate Gmail account won't hide you > from that. > > For example, your use of Gmail for this list will affect what videos > Youtube suggests to you. I've never seen any evidence of that. I only get suggestions that are similar to videos I watched. I doubt google knows much about me, or their choice of adverts wouldn't be so laughable. Two years I spent a couple of minutes on their search engine (instead of DuckDuckGo) looking at garden shredders and got ads that were dominated by shredders for months. This is a minor improvement over ~15 years ago when I typed in "KDE packages fruit salad servers" and got several years worth of soft-fruit ads - mostly raspberries.