From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Jun 18 16:14:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA04946 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 16:14:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mx.serv.net (mx.serv.net [205.153.153.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA04941 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 16:14:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fewtch@serv.net) Received: from desktop-pentium (dialup640.serv.net [207.207.65.40]) by mx.serv.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA16019; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 16:14:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980618161412.007f6100@mx.serv.net> X-Sender: fewtch@mx.serv.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 16:14:12 -0700 To: Malartre From: Tim Gerchmez Subject: Re: Major hardware reorganization... Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <35896B81.D140985A@aei.ca> References: <3.0.5.32.19980618064338.007f1100@mx.serv.net> <199806181637.MAA27806@luomat.peak.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 03:33 PM 6/18/98 -0400, you wrote: >Ok, when you boot with the GENERIC kernel, freebsd use a lot of time to >find all hardware that does'nt exist and waste 15-20 second on a scsi >timout or something like that. If the system has no SCSI hardware at all, FreeBSD will detect this and waste no further time. However, probing for each hard drive on the ISA bus can take some time (which can easily be eliminated by building a custom kernel). >When you remove all those scsi thing or >than you customize it, it take *less* than my win95 to boot! Remember >than win95 seems speedy because there is a beautiful win95.bmp presented >to you ;-) On a well-maintained (defragged) Win95 system, with minimal hardware to check/detect/load drivers for at boot time, Win95 boots quite fast (if it boots slowly on some systems, usually this can be remedied by changing certain things). But the fastest booting OS of all is plain old MS-DOS, we all have to agree on that :-) Then again, some argue MS-DOS isn't even an OS, just a fancy program loader. To some degree, I agree with this. It doesn't manage hardware at all, one of the basic requirements for an OS. Without external programs like himem.sys and emm386.exe, MS-DOS only knows what the BIOS knows, and no more, and can't even go beyond 640k. P.S... why do I always forget to hit "reply to all" instead of just reply, then I have to manually type freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org in the CC: box. Got to get into the habit :-) -- My web site starts at http://www.serv.net/~fewtch/index.html - lots of goodies for everyone, have a look if you have the time. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message