From owner-cvs-src@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 1 17:26:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cvs-src@freebsd.org Delivered-To: cvs-src@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E30316A420 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 17:26:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from maksim.yevmenkin@gmail.com) Received: from nproxy.gmail.com (nproxy.gmail.com [64.233.182.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D968D43D7B for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 17:25:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from maksim.yevmenkin@gmail.com) Received: by nproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id c2so128696nfe for ; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 09:25:57 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=QpZ+56gVxzishqbo61e3IDZvnsXtLuXk5OdE/SRx5pWAMCUd0toFly1lDTP3QRZlPmwINM5JFAeLruH0gvqwHk4n2iWHIEshq5aKyLkEXwcn+7MFbbZRsNwgvCZONhAzjWfIKZkini1V3jvO1fROfbgT5PZ407QBRsar4tH9l84= Received: by 10.48.213.18 with SMTP id l18mr208697nfg; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 09:25:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.4.2 with HTTP; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 09:25:56 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 09:25:56 -0800 From: "Maksim Yevmenkin" To: "Scott Long" In-Reply-To: <4405CC23.20403@samsco.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <200602252159.k1PLxT8G036312@repoman.freebsd.org> <20060227194350.A57612@newtrinity.zeist.de> <864q2j5voi.fsf@xps.des.no> <346a80220602282337n3a2786c1qf4f9358fa6be73d4@mail.gmail.com> <44054FB8.5010707@samsco.org> <20060301135551.GY27069@submonkey.net> <4405ACE7.6060605@centtech.com> <4405CC23.20403@samsco.org> Cc: src-committers@freebsd.org, cokane@cokane.org, cvs-src@freebsd.org, cvs-all@freebsd.org, Marius Strobl , Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav , Ceri Davies , Eric Anderson Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/dev/kbdmux kbdmux.c X-BeenThere: cvs-src@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the src tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 17:26:12 -0000 On 3/1/06, Scott Long wrote: > Eric Anderson wrote: > > Ceri Davies wrote: > > > >> On Wed, Mar 01, 2006 at 12:39:36AM -0700, Scott Long wrote: > >> > >> > >>> Coleman Kane wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>> On 2/28/06, *Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav* > > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> "Maksim Yevmenkin" >>>> > writes: > >>>> > we should make a decision which scancodes keyboard drivers > >>>> should be > >>>> > returning and change kbdmux(4), syscons(4) etc. to support it. > >>>> > > >>>> > until then, i'm afraid, sun rs232 and powerpc adb keyboard > >>>> drivers > >>>> > will have to translate their own scancodes into at scancodes > >>>> (just > >>>> > like ukbd(4) does). > >>>> > >>>> Considering that ukbd(4) is the only kbd driver that runs on all > >>>> platforms, it might make sense to have all other drivers translat= e > >>>> their scancodes to ukbd(4) scancodes and use that in kbdmux(4) an= d > >>>> syscons(4). > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> I agree, especially since atkbdc's are rapidly being replaced by > >>>> USB on the platforms they were made for. > >>>> > >>> > >>> Long term, yes, but what is the risk/benefit of doing this for 6.1? > >>> > >> > >> > >> If it doesn't work, we look like bloody idiots. 6.2 isn't that far > >> away, I'd think that anybody could manage waiting for it a little more > >> (especially if it goes into RELENG_6 just after the 6.1 branch). > >> > >> The above not to be taken as a comment on the change, on which I am no= t > >> informed enough to hold an opinion. > >> > > > > > > Can we have it all set, built in to GENERIC, but the device hint set to > > disabled? Lots of systems, Dell PowerEdge and similar, come with a > > remote access card, which uses a USB tie in. The only way I've found t= o > > make the console keyboard work after initial install, is to boot single > > user, hack /etc/devd.conf, and reboot, which is really ugly. Many > > FreeBSD users get stuck with this, so it would be very nice to have a > > quick way to enable the kbdmux at loader time for 6.1, but if it goes i= n > > right after, I'm not going to cry. :) > > > > Thanks again Maksim for all the work on this! > > I'd like to turn this on for the next BETA build, get feedback, then > decide whether or not to leave it enabled for the final 6.1 release. > Maksim, is that OK with you? yes, it should be fine. i still need to add/test hints support in kbdmux(4). i plan to finish it today. i will also need to MFC all my changes to RELENG_6. i'm not sure how much testing we want before MFC. should i get a blanket approval from re@? thanks, max