From owner-cvs-all Wed Jul 22 00:44:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA00746 for cvs-all-outgoing; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 00:44:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.15.68.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA00674; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 00:44:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bde@godzilla.zeta.org.au) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA01607; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 17:43:43 +1000 Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 17:43:43 +1000 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199807220743.RAA01607@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: bde@zeta.org.au, jkh@time.cdrom.com Subject: Re: Tree tagging put off by ~12 hours. Cc: asami@FreeBSD.ORG, committers@FreeBSD.ORG, mike@smith.net.au, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk >You still don't seem to understand. "Worse" is freefall crashing and >denying service for a problem which is still unknown but seems fairly >non-fatal (at least unless it panics the system). Unless you have an >actual fix for this problem, and I don't see it attached to your >message anywhere, this is _exactly_ the right thing to do. Having >freefall drop into the debugger 2 or 3 times a day is not a solution. Having freefall drop into the debugger is another misconfiguration. DDB shouldn't be used except on machines that will be attended for 24 hours/day or where downtime doesn't matter. NMIs in combination with DDB are more broken than I remembered. When DDB is configured, NMIs are interpreted as being from the "NMI pushbutton for debugging" and are not handled normally. >Since you can't fix it, don't make it worse by making stupid >suggestions. :-) I can only fix the software problems :-). Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message