From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Jun 13 20: 6:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mail.HiWAAY.net (fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25CCF14C02 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 20:06:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net) Received: from nospam.hiwaay.net (tnt8-216-180-14-148.dialup.HiWAAY.net [216.180.14.148]) by mail.HiWAAY.net (8.9.1a/8.9.0) with ESMTP id WAA28485; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 22:06:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nospam.hiwaay.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA30138; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 22:06:12 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net) Message-Id: <199906140306.WAA30138@nospam.hiwaay.net> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Tani Hosokawa Cc: Morten Seeberg , freebsd-chat@freebsd.org From: David Kelly Subject: Re: SGI Donated Journalised FS Source to Linux In-reply-to: Message from Tani Hosokawa of "Mon, 14 Jun 1999 07:23:25 PDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 22:06:12 -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Moved to -chat. Tani Hosokawa writes: >From what I understand, it's going to be GPL'd. Oh? Where did you hear that? http://www.sgi.com/newsroom/press_releases/1999/may/xfs.html says: > License and Availability > SGI will begin to offer code later this summer > and meet the license guidelines set-forth by > the Open Source Initiative. http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,0-36807,00.html?st.ne.ni.lh says: > While SGI's announcement will come tomorrow, the > software itself won't be available for download > until the summer. SGI still is deciding how to > structure the open source license, the company > said, though it is sure to meet the requirements of > the Open Source Definition, a spokesman said. While the above are liberally sprinkled with the word, "Linux", the SGI press release does not say XFS is being contributed to Linux, but "to the Open Source Community." Big difference. The news article appears to have taken liberties attributing XFS to Linux as it was announced at a Linux show. You know the media can't tell the difference between FreeBSD, Linux, Macintosh, and Chernobyl. :-) When its released and when the details of the license are published, then there may be a race to see who can implement it in Linux and the BSD's first. However I suspect SGI has people implementing it in Linux this very moment and will run under Linux the instant it is publicly released. I have used SGI's XFS for several years and been quite happy with it. So happy I got lazy and quit making separate root, var, and usr filesystems. (SGI ships Irix that way too). Three years, 30 systems, the only filesystem loss was when somebody yanked a SCSI cable on an active disk THEN plugged it back in hot. Then again I haven't run that many FreeBSD systems but have a similar track record with filesystems. Prior to March 1995 I ran Linux until it ate my filesystems 3 times in one week. Never could get Linux running well enough to do any work. First week with FreeBSD was rough. But clear sailing and all smiles ever since. > On Mon, 14 Jun 1999, Morten Seeberg wrote: > > > I read that SGI donated some Jornalised Filesystem Source Code to the Linux > > Project, would this information not help the FreeBSD Project achieve these > > features also? > > > > Is it even legal to use it, they might have donated it entirely for the > > Linux project of course. Anything released for Linux is usable in FreeBSD. Its just that it has to be kept separate so those working on it know the terms. And those using FreeBSD for special purposes know they may be obliged under GPL to ship certian sections of source code with their product. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message