From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 24 17:22:15 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81D7416A4CE for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 17:22:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9291E43FAF for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 17:22:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) id hAP1M88N076646; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 19:22:08 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 19:22:08 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: "Daniel O'Connor" Message-ID: <20031125012208.GD46761@dan.emsphone.com> References: <16322.26365.159173.946033@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <200311251049.18227.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200311251049.18227.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> X-OS: FreeBSD 5.1-CURRENT X-message-flag: Outlook Error User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1i cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org cc: Andrew Gallatin Subject: Re: 40% slowdown with dynamic /bin/sh X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 01:22:15 -0000 In the last episode (Nov 25), Daniel O'Connor said: > On Tuesday 25 November 2003 06:45, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > So.. forking a dynamic sh is roughly 40% more expensive than > > forking a static copy of sh. This is embarrassing. > > > > I propose that we at least make /bin/sh static. (and not add a > > /sbin/sh; if we must have a dynamic sh, import pdksh, or put a > > dynamically linked sh in /usr/bin/sh). > > > > I'd greatly prefer that the the dynamic root default be backed out > > until a substantial amount of this performance can be recovered. > > What _REAL WORLD_ task does this slow down? Try timing "cd /usr/ports/www/mozilla-devel ; make clean" with static and dynamic /bin. bsd.port.mk spawns many many many /bin/sh processes. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com