From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Feb 10 22:16:12 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA29222 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 22:16:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp01.wxs.nl (smtp01.wxs.nl [195.121.6.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA29217 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 22:16:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.56.3]) by smtp01.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with ESMTP id AAA446D; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 07:16:08 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <79t6uv$1kq$1@mips.rhein-neckar.de> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 07:25:08 +0100 (CET) Organization: Ninth Circle Enterprises From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: (Christian Weisgerber) Subject: Re: Linus on IRC Cc: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 11-Feb-99 Christian Weisgerber wrote: > Among BSD people there is a lot of casual Linux bashing, usually devoid > of technical justification. Snide remarks against Linux have become > fashionable on the freebsd mailing lists. Mayhaps, but most Linux users and Linux coders view only their OS as the One True Way, and they don't see how hopelessly broken/hacked at some places it realy is. Also, there's so much about the development process of some Linux programming efforts that causes alot of patching before it's even suitable for cross platform development (the only way that works i by use of automake/autoconf/autoheader). Talk to a bunch of (other) developers about this, horror stories amass... > You don't see much of this in other direction. To Linux people, BSD is > mostly a non-issue. It's invisible, who runs it anyway?, they're > hopelessly split up. That's what you are likely to hear. And this > attitude starts from the top down, see Linus' comment above, see ESR's > remarks, and a few months ago I witnessed Maddog Hall giving a similar > response when asked about his opinions on BSD. And the large numbers of > Linux users at the bottom pick it up. They wouldn't know *BSD if it bit them in the butt. Funniest thing happened the other day, someone asked me if FreeBSD was released under the GPL. Most of 'em have no sense of the history if 'nix anyways... --- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven join #FreeBSD on Undernet asmodai(at)wxs.nl This is my Truth, tell me your's... Network/Security Specialist *BSD: Powered by Knowledge & Know-how To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message