From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 3 07:29:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA21982 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 07:29:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ntmail1.cskauto.com (csknet.cskauto.com [207.247.103.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA21974 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 07:29:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from JFOSTER@CSKAUTO.COM) Received: by v128041.vandenberg.af.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 08:30:03 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Foster, Jim" To: "'Greg Lehey'" Cc: "'freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG'" Subject: RE: Desperately trying to get X to work... Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 08:29:01 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG OK, I redirected the startx output to a file, what do I look for? [Greg: by the way, the example on page 229 did not save the output to a file, it went to the screen. I needed to use `startx 1>startx.out 2>&1`.] What I ended up saving was output from my SVGA server in 8-bit mode, my SVGA server that I *attempted* to run in 16-bit mode, and I *tried* to reconfigure it back to S3, but that was locking up my system. I am guessing that I messed up the keyboard somewhere along the way (C-A-backspace and C-A-del did not work). I have a keyboard that looks like a Microsoft Natural keyboard, but it does not seem to be mapped like on. Anyway, I ran out of time last night so the only output that I could get from the S3 one was from a `startx -- -probeonly 1>...`. So, what do I need to look for and what kind of things will I need to change? Thanks Jim > -----Original Message----- > From: Greg Lehey [SMTP:grog@lemis.com] > Sent: Monday, November 02, 1998 4:15 PM > To: Foster, Jim; 'freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG' > Subject: Re: Desperately trying to get X to work... > > On Monday, 2 November 1998 at 9:34:33 -0700, Foster, Jim wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I am trying to get X to work on my computer, but I am not having much > luck. > > I have read the book (The Complete FreeBSD), I have read the errata, I > have > > downloaded and used the new chapter 8 of the book, I have looked at past > > list archives....All with no luck. > > > > Basically what happens is when I configure and run X, I hear my monitor > > click and then go black. I stays that way until I kill X, and cycle my > > monitor off and on. > > This is an indication that X is trying to drive the monitor out of > spec. It's turning off to avoid burning out. > > > I have an IBM ValuePoint computer (i486/66 DX2) with built-in S3 video. > > SuperProbe reports: > > First video: Super-VGA > > Chipset: S3 86C805, C-step (Port Probed) > > Memory: 1024 Kbytes > > RAMDAC: AT&T 20C490 15/16/24-bit DAC > > (with 6-bit wide lookup tables (or in 6-bit mode)) > > (programmable for 6/8-bit wide lookup tables) > > > > For what it is worth, Win 95 reports that I have S3 video and that the > > chipset is 801/805 Rev E. (Sidebar: In windows I can regularly use > 800x600 > > and 16-bit color with no problems). > > > > I have verified on the monitor manufacturer's web site what the > horizontal > > and vertical refresh rates are, so that part should be OK (it's not in > the > > monitors database). > > What are they? > > > When I configured X, it only presents me with three chipset options for > S3. > > Those are mmio_928, newmmio, and s3_generic. No 86C805! Because of all > of > > the "deadly warnings" about frying monitors AND chipsets, I have only > > selected s3_generic so far. > > You're unlikely to fry that monitor. The "click and go black" is a > good sign. And s3_generic should do it. > > > I have configured the memory for 1MB, and the RAMDAC (whatever that > > is...) to att20c490, but I am not sure about the rest of the stuff > > that SuperProbe spit out, like ...15/16/24-bit DAC... and the stuff > > about lookup tables. I assume it has to do with color depth. > > Finally, I also did not choose any clock chip support since > > SuperProbe did not tell me any thing about clock chips. > > That should all be OK. > > > I had the config script run X -probeonly to put the clock lines into the > > configuration. > > You should be able to leave out the clock lines. If X -probeonly > finds them, it'll find them at startup too. > > > When I run startx, my monitor clicks, and goes black. > > > > As an experiment, I reconfigured X to use the SVGA server instead of S3 > and > > I can get that to work in 8-bit color mode only (looks _real_ ugly). As > > soon as I try and use the SVGA configuration with something more than > 8-bit > > color...you guessed it, click-and-black. > > > > Am I suppose to use mmio_928 or newmmio? How do I know which one? Will > it > > hurt my computer if I try and it is wrong? What else do I need to look > at? > > The first thing you need to look at is the information that X prints > out when it starts. Since you have The Book, look at page 229, which > shows you how to start X and capture this information. In particular, > check the information that it outputs about horizontal frequencies. > > Greg > -- > See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers > finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message