From owner-cvs-src@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 1 18:12:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cvs-src@freebsd.org Delivered-To: cvs-src@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 499F216A420; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 18:12:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Received: from pooker.samsco.org (pooker.samsco.org [168.103.85.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3170643D49; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 18:12:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Received: from [10.10.3.185] ([69.15.205.254]) (authenticated bits=0) by pooker.samsco.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k21IBlfa063904; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 11:11:48 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Message-ID: <4405E3DC.7030403@samsco.org> Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 11:11:40 -0700 From: Scott Long User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20060206 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Maksim Yevmenkin References: <200602252159.k1PLxT8G036312@repoman.freebsd.org> <20060227194350.A57612@newtrinity.zeist.de> <864q2j5voi.fsf@xps.des.no> <346a80220602282337n3a2786c1qf4f9358fa6be73d4@mail.gmail.com> <44054FB8.5010707@samsco.org> <20060301135551.GY27069@submonkey.net> <4405ACE7.6060605@centtech.com> <4405CC23.20403@samsco.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=3.8 tests=none autolearn=failed version=3.1.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on pooker.samsco.org Cc: src-committers@freebsd.org, cokane@cokane.org, cvs-src@freebsd.org, cvs-all@freebsd.org, Marius Strobl , Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav , Ceri Davies , Eric Anderson Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/dev/kbdmux kbdmux.c X-BeenThere: cvs-src@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the src tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 18:12:20 -0000 Maksim Yevmenkin wrote: > On 3/1/06, Scott Long wrote: > >>Eric Anderson wrote: >> >>>Ceri Davies wrote: >>> >>> >>>>On Wed, Mar 01, 2006 at 12:39:36AM -0700, Scott Long wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>Coleman Kane wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>On 2/28/06, *Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav* > >>>>>>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> "Maksim Yevmenkin" >>>>> > writes: >>>>>> > we should make a decision which scancodes keyboard drivers >>>>>>should be >>>>>> > returning and change kbdmux(4), syscons(4) etc. to support it. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > until then, i'm afraid, sun rs232 and powerpc adb keyboard >>>>>>drivers >>>>>> > will have to translate their own scancodes into at scancodes >>>>>>(just >>>>>> > like ukbd(4) does). >>>>>> >>>>>> Considering that ukbd(4) is the only kbd driver that runs on all >>>>>> platforms, it might make sense to have all other drivers translate >>>>>> their scancodes to ukbd(4) scancodes and use that in kbdmux(4) and >>>>>> syscons(4). >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>I agree, especially since atkbdc's are rapidly being replaced by >>>>>>USB on the platforms they were made for. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Long term, yes, but what is the risk/benefit of doing this for 6.1? >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>If it doesn't work, we look like bloody idiots. 6.2 isn't that far >>>>away, I'd think that anybody could manage waiting for it a little more >>>>(especially if it goes into RELENG_6 just after the 6.1 branch). >>>> >>>>The above not to be taken as a comment on the change, on which I am not >>>>informed enough to hold an opinion. >>>> >>> >>> >>>Can we have it all set, built in to GENERIC, but the device hint set to >>>disabled? Lots of systems, Dell PowerEdge and similar, come with a >>>remote access card, which uses a USB tie in. The only way I've found to >>>make the console keyboard work after initial install, is to boot single >>>user, hack /etc/devd.conf, and reboot, which is really ugly. Many >>>FreeBSD users get stuck with this, so it would be very nice to have a >>>quick way to enable the kbdmux at loader time for 6.1, but if it goes in >>>right after, I'm not going to cry. :) >>> >>>Thanks again Maksim for all the work on this! >> >>I'd like to turn this on for the next BETA build, get feedback, then >>decide whether or not to leave it enabled for the final 6.1 release. >>Maksim, is that OK with you? > > > yes, it should be fine. i still need to add/test hints support in > kbdmux(4). i plan to finish it today. i will also need to MFC all my > changes to RELENG_6. i'm not sure how much testing we want before MFC. > should i get a blanket approval from re@? > > thanks, > max Instead of rushing this in, let's build BETA3 now without it and then spend the next week getting it working at tested and polished. Scott