From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Sep 10 14: 2: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9511337B400 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 14:02:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from directvinternet.com (dsl-65-185-140-165.telocity.com [65.185.140.165]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B07F43E6E for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 14:02:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nwestfal@directvinternet.com) Received: from Tolstoy.home.lan (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by directvinternet.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8AL0eGd008220; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 14:00:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nwestfal@directvinternet.com) Received: from localhost (nwestfal@localhost) by Tolstoy.home.lan (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) with ESMTP id g8AL0eDq008217; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 14:00:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: Tolstoy.home.lan: nwestfal owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 14:00:40 -0700 (PDT) From: "Neal E. Westfall" X-X-Sender: nwestfal@Tolstoy.home.lan To: Joshua Lee Cc: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr, Subject: Re: Why did evolution fail? In-Reply-To: <20020910152817.7ceb1917.yid@softhome.net> Message-ID: <20020910135549.W35938-100000@Tolstoy.home.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 10 Sep 2002, Joshua Lee wrote: > > ROFL. You think Kantian ethics are objective? BTW, please explain > > how you get ethics from "natural law". That's a joke, right? > > Kantian ethics are objective, I don't happen to like a few of the > conclusions it reaches, but they are objective, without placing a diety > on a pedestal of objectivity. Kant's whole philosophy was infected with subjectivism. > Funny, you being a Protestant, I thought > you would like Kant. What, you think Kant was a Christian? > What do you not like about his philosophy, which is closer to your > beliefs than mine anyway? What makes you think that? I like the fact that he started asking the right kinds of questions, given his work on transcendental arguments, but the problem with Kant is that he still started with man as his starting point, which is the source of the subjectivism in his philosophy. Neal To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message