From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 26 14:27:29 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gw-us3.origin-it.com (gw-us3.origin-it.com [198.133.202.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2C0F37B400; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 14:27:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from exchsmtp-nl1.origin-it.com (localhost.origin-it.com [127.0.0.1]) by gw-us3.origin-it.com with ESMTP id QAA01828; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 16:27:09 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from Helge.Oldach@atosorigin.com) Received: from exchsmtp-nl1.origin-it.com(172.16.127.66) by gw-us3.origin-it.com via mwrap (4.0a) id xma001826; Tue, 26 Mar 02 16:27:10 -0600 Received: from mail.de.origin-it.com (smtprelay-de1.origin-it.com [172.16.188.53]) by exchsmtp-nl1.origin-it.com (8.9.3/8.8.5-1.2.2m-19990317) with ESMTP id XAA13880; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 23:27:08 +0100 (MET) Received: from mailhub.de.origin-it.com (mailhub.de.origin-it.com [172.16.189.20]) by mail.de.origin-it.com (8.9.3/8.8.5-1.2.2m-19990317) with ESMTP id XAA22368; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 23:27:06 +0100 (MET) Received: from galaxy.de.cp.philips.com (galaxy.de.cp.philips.com [130.143.166.29]) by mailhub.de.origin-it.com (8.11.6/8.11.6/hmo19mar02) with ESMTP id g2QMR1M81027; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 23:27:02 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from Helge.Oldach@de.origin-it.com) Received: (from hmo@localhost) by galaxy.de.cp.philips.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/hmo14aug98) id XAA27664; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 23:26:57 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <200203262226.XAA27664@galaxy.de.cp.philips.com> Subject: Re: HEADS UP: sendmail 8.12.2 MFC'ed In-Reply-To: <20020326223457.B25907@mail.webmonster.de> from "Karsten W. Rohrbach" at "Mar 26, 2002 10:34:57 pm" To: karsten@rohrbach.de (Karsten W. Rohrbach) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 23:26:57 +0100 (MET) Cc: raymond.j.kohler@lmco.com, gshapiro@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org From: Helge Oldach X-Address: Atos Origin GmbH, Billstrasse 80, D-20539 Hamburg, Germany X-Phone: +49 40 7886 464, Fax: +49 40 7886 235, Mobile: +49 160 4782517 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Karsten W. Rohrbach: >the question is: why the hell are complex (or rather complicated) >subsystems that often stay unused still in the base distribution? it is >simply not consequent, not following the main paradigm of bsd's design, >to have subsystems like sendmail or bind in the base dist, Because they don't ...stay unused. It's just convenient to have a standard, well- and widely-known piece of software around. You may not like it but both Sendmail and BIND are the de facto standards. Period. You have all hooks to throw them away and substitute them with something different, so please don't bother the world if they don't grok your personal taste. Not another sendmail-versus-whatever discussion please... Please! Helge P.S. Get rid of vi; cat should be enough for everyone! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message