From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jun 16 15:37:42 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA38533F027 for ; Tue, 16 Jun 2020 15:37:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io1-xd33.google.com (mail-io1-xd33.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d33]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49mXQD16nWz4BR5 for ; Tue, 16 Jun 2020 15:37:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io1-xd33.google.com with SMTP id t9so1872809ioj.13 for ; Tue, 16 Jun 2020 08:37:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=brzsk6X7EIkXlHtPTJQQRUVq2+pGOO3tZMWM6Ck97/g=; b=A6Ga4/o+FPtODKnpSLh+Ednihz0Q3CGx/hBhGyJS2W/eTUX8ZbX4PEwR2pV1BuIYK7 3eKk24mJjsJyGB6+u9Nx6dSB9imt9ebZ9Pl+78BLlL4SEkbWJUHpnfK4bILdVrYUW0mp m+EEyG8vGcMZnd2L40e3vb80WHHd9NocHNMmBo05PT4S99Qo56OMxS7Plq0TRasJqbM5 009/P5TZPcHnjP6NNCNBdnom+EF8f2O28bxz4/oUM8wYzBmw9vpw5a4N+bokFPZhfrxn Z9bBNV2DSl/BhiBNnfHtmpWD5yZoMZkysjq8jGqzV0gCWOXGbfFnn/ZXEY3+/PtuDLyn e+XQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=brzsk6X7EIkXlHtPTJQQRUVq2+pGOO3tZMWM6Ck97/g=; b=P9+3BXgUR3KOFGPP0YedHhdHGnidTXjWSv2MauZ42Jr8MynI+BJCry4/QTg6gohTZ5 I307Gons0GJt7Sfs4VrAnI7pWpv7NzBhkNCF2PnxlGBBs66fDPGmCtwqyfBvIfGQSasa bM2tkXrioz4z/iXuEyvfFbNQOWS/78cpUAjk0mXomvAf6MAl0GoBgLh3JbxnitrJ1f3S TJlkFJ+QQOiPpBuVZ0jLp14D3eGRDYtpP5gN7HT50HSfw0X+72sTQ8TzIpQYjBTq88uM BiTzmDm1L2btIhIVyyjvcRTa2NryhM2GeXfmgQSXOigBYO3FqgI6TctGQtLfLe4BP9Hj 7PPA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530Pb122Fdi6sJAYRGEUdajEnkueDgXKcyR3Zvb82Vb1sMjO+Hkx /bfSBQ7GvFTAsezXprFsdWPSY/T8DZwC7ydcyXw= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwTIXJhFeQdWM7h/0QY9vf4VMM4m/0mKvOt+hnPHpqscY5mRwU9xJYqygnZxcU5JtE/X3qH0IOjgsJTTG24cao= X-Received: by 2002:a5d:8e19:: with SMTP id e25mr3777333iod.36.1592321858106; Tue, 16 Jun 2020 08:37:38 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20200613154409.GA89618@neutralgood.org> <13115.1592302784@segfault.tristatelogic.com> <20200616071153.00006f4d@seibercom.net> <20200616075548.000066f1@seibercom.net> <20200616140416.bd7b8bf2.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200616142043.7d599458.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200616092901.000002f7@seibercom.net> In-Reply-To: From: Aryeh Friedman Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2020 11:37:26 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mailing List Etiquette was freebsd vs. netbsd To: Chris Knipe Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49mXQD16nWz4BR5 X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=A6Ga4/o+; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of aryehfriedman@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::d33 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=aryehfriedman@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.71 / 15.00]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.05)[-1.051]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::d33:from]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.66)[-0.657]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.33 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2020 15:37:43 -0000 On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 11:27 AM Chris Knipe wrote: > > > On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 5:18 PM Aryeh Friedman > wrote: > > The reason why a smartphone is called 'Smart', is exactly that. It can > load a multitude of email clients, all perfectly capable of rendering > emails > 80 characters. > Again you missed the point completely it is not that the email is limited to 80 chars it is the lines are and longer lines broken at unpredictable places are unreadable. And as your comment on SMS and gluing together not all phone users use smart phones there are people who prefer and/or require dumb flip phones. Good example is ultra Orthodox Jews (and I suspect other ultrarigious people in other faiths) who consider the fact that you can access stuff that is impure (i.e. porn, gossip [gossip is forbidden by the Talmud] and foul language) on the Internet that using the Internet (except for work and/or life critical applications) is forbidden (or at least to be used as little as possible since many things require Internet access these days). For this reason the same ultra Orthodox refuse to use smart phones and instead use flip phones (you can buy "kosher" phones in Israel but they are incompatible with American networks). Only smart phones will not fragment the message. -- Aryeh M. Friedman, Lead Developer, http://www.PetiteCloud.org