From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 8 11:36:35 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ADE637B401 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 11:36:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C70C643FAF for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 11:36:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h48IaDm2056299; Thu, 8 May 2003 11:36:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h48IaC75056298; Thu, 8 May 2003 11:36:12 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 11:36:12 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: "M. Warner Losh" Message-ID: <20030508183612.GA56264@dragon.nuxi.com> Mail-Followup-To: David O'Brien , "M. Warner Losh" References: <20030508.093911.48456930.imp@bsdimp.com> <20030508165844.GO76376@roark.gnf.org> <20030508.110858.91024289.imp@bsdimp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030508.110858.91024289.imp@bsdimp.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 cc: arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /rescue X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: arch@freebsd.org List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 18:36:35 -0000 On Thu, May 08, 2003 at 11:08:58AM -0600, M. Warner Losh wrote: > : On Thu, May 08, 2003 at 09:39:11AM -0600, M. Warner Losh wrote: > : > > : > Tim posted this a while ago to hackers@. It looked like it was > : > further along than what's been posted here. > : > : Actually, Tim's and my work are complimentary. I hadn't worked on > : getting a /rescue, /stand, /ohcrap directory. Personally, I agree > : with David O'Brien that it should be called /stand since we have > : precedence (and documentation in hier(7)) for that. > > NetBSD put them in /rescue. /stand has been phased out over the past > few years. There's precident many ways. How has it been phased out?? My 5.0-RELEASE install certainly has a /stand with the contents of: sh arp camcontrol cpio dhclient find fsck_ffs hostname ifconfig minigzip mount_nfs newfs ppp pwd rm route rtsol sed slattach test tunefs usbd usbdevs zcat I've used /stand several times to recover from bad events. I would call it phased out or useless. The fact that we don't update it during 'make world' no one has felt the need until now.