From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Sep 10 14:17:25 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E17437B400 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 14:17:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from williams.mc.vanderbilt.edu (williams.mc.Vanderbilt.Edu [160.129.208.222]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7D0C143E77 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 14:17:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from drew-list-freebsd-chat@rain3s.net) Received: (qmail 21032 invoked from network); 10 Sep 2002 21:17:58 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO williams.mc.vanderbilt.edu) (127.0.0.1) by williams.mc.vanderbilt.edu with SMTP; 10 Sep 2002 21:17:58 -0000 Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 16:17:56 -0500 To: chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Why did evolution fail? Message-ID: <20020910211756.GF4470@drew.rain3s.net> References: <20020909103002.H9219-100000@Tolstoy.home.lan> <34F88260-C4E0-11D6-8708-000393A335A2@earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <34F88260-C4E0-11D6-8708-000393A335A2@earthlink.net> From: Drew Raines Mail-Followup-To: chat@FreeBSD.ORG X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/0.62+ Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Lawrence Sica wrote: > > Jesus by his actions lived by not persecuting "Let he who is > without sin cas the first stone". Remember that line? Have you actually read the Bible or do you quote it fourth-hand for fun? Jesus persecuted unbelievers constantly, especially the religious leaders of his time. He walked around saying he was the only way to God, which, in that time, were the most horrible words someone could utter. As far as your ``quote,'' Jesus said that after the Pharisees brought an adulterous woman to the temple to try and trick him into saying she should be put to death, the Jewish penalty for such an act. Instead, he told them, ``He who is without sin among you, let him be the first to throw a stone at her'' (John 8:7, NASB). His point was, just like Romans 3:23, that ``all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God.'' They deserved a stone in the head just as much or more than the woman for their unbelief. However, Jesus is not subject to his implication. He is God. He is perfect. He is without sin. He has full rights to persecute at his leisure. > Also the Bible was used as justification by twisting > interpretations and making up meanings. The story of Noah > and the flood was used to justify slavery at one point. God can make up all the meaning he wants. That's why I trust him with my salvation. How the flood, however, justifies slavery is a mystery. Care to elaborate? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message