From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 17 04:36:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40CEA16A407 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2006 04:36:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from mail.stovebolt.com (mail.stovebolt.com [66.221.101.248]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3C2843D53 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2006 04:36:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from [192.168.2.102] (unknown [66.142.189.190]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.stovebolt.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B4BE114314 for ; Sat, 16 Sep 2006 23:29:24 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 23:36:15 -0500 From: pauls@utdallas.edu To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <450CCC90.6000605@verysmall.org> References: <200609161541.38002.bob@tania.servebbs.org> <450C55FA.5070701@verysmall.org> <200609161639.47705.bob@tania.servebbs.org> <450CCC90.6000605@verysmall.org> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.5 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; boundary="==========3C5005AD715FBEC385A9==========" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: When is BuildWorld necessary? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 04:36:24 -0000 --==========3C5005AD715FBEC385A9========== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline --On September 17, 2006 6:18:24 AM +0200 pobox@verysmall.org wrote: > Bob wrote: >> On Saturday 16 September 2006 15:52, pobox@verysmall.org wrote: >> >>> But I have one question - do you rebuild the world on a remote machine >> >> Sorry; I am a newbie at FreeBSD, and have never done a buildworld :-( I >> have spent lots of time on Linux, Solaris, and SCO, but this is my >> first cut at BSD. >> >> Just from past NIX experience though, I would never rebuild an entire >> OS remotely without having someone onsite to push the On/Off switch >> when the inevitable happens :-( > > We have someone to push the switch. I just thought if it is possible to > be done without engaging the support. > No one has mentioned the security/freebsd-update port. With that you can=20 apply updates to the kernel and world without having to build them *if*=20 (and only if!) you are running a GENERIC kernel. For remote=20 administration, this may be a good option for some. I've done a number of build world and kernel routines without a problem. make buildworld make buildkernel make installkernel reboot mergemaster -p make install world mergemaster reboot This has worked for me on three different systems, all of which are easily = accessible if something goes wrong. I have one server that's about 20=20 miles away and much more critical than the others (in terms of uptime and=20 accessibility) *and* I don't have remote access to the server through a=20 KVM or similar. For that one I use freebsd-update, because I don't want=20 to have to suddenly jump in the car and drive 30 minutes (while the server = is down) to fix a problem. Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) Adjunct Information Security Officer The University of Texas at Dallas http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ --==========3C5005AD715FBEC385A9==========--