From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 04:12:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D29D16A4CF for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 04:12:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18BC243D1D for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 04:12:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jon.drews@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 79so257257rnk for ; Sat, 23 Oct 2004 21:12:11 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=TUB3RtrY0G3fR9O7DrJWJZuR+efIyHQH2iGrMIjdHKdHQonGjRlGf/tjGC/YRZkTpOzuL+WcKnAxzjp41c+q9gWv76fx+NOnNcLVTMijDn2WCcjESOA4YUHAQ17cPfJJa2mBbvkA/SIvgLB5qS3hfqOL8hwzjZ0F044iega+u88= Received: by 10.38.82.50 with SMTP id f50mr469454rnb; Sat, 23 Oct 2004 21:12:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.89.32 with HTTP; Sat, 23 Oct 2004 21:12:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8cb27cbf04102321126dc8d4a1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 22:12:11 -0600 From: Jon Drews To: estover@olc.edu In-Reply-To: <1098590132.32627.20.camel@red> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <1098590132.32627.20.camel@red> cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RE.Serious investigations into UNIX and Windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Jon Drews List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 04:12:14 -0000 On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 21:55:32 -0600, Ed Stover wrote: > better than MS products in server environments. > > Some friends of mine have told me that yahoo, msn and microsoft all use > FreeBSD but until i can show him that and prove it to him that means > nothing. The fact that MSN and Microsoft used FreeBSD was in two articles that appeared in the Wall Street Journal. The reporter went on to point out the iorny of Microsoft using Open Source secretly while vilifying it publicly. http://zdnet.com.com/2100-11-530081.html Excerpt: Is Microsoft secretly using open source? By Lee Gomes The Wall Street Journal Online June 17, 2001, 5:00 PM PT FreeBSD used on Hotmail? But Microsoft's statements Friday suggest the company has itself been taking advantage of the very technology it has insisted would bring dire consequences to others. "I am appalled at the way Microsoft bashes open source on the one hand, while depending on it for its business on the other," said Marshall Kirk McKusick, a leader of the FreeBSD development team.... ...But Friday, Microsoft conceded FreeBSD was still being used at Hotmail on machines that track advertising and that run a crucial Internet function known as "DNS hosting." A Microsoft spokesman said he couldn't explain why Microsoft had given out incorrect information on the topic.... ...But one employee of the Redmond, Wash., company said Microsoft has deliberately kept FreeBSD in parts of Hotmail because of its technical superiority over Windows in important functions and furthermore had decided to actually increase its reliance on FreeBSD.