From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 17 15:29:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: docs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8473310656ED for ; Fri, 17 Apr 2009 15:29:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B35A8FC25 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 2009 15:29:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 24834 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2009 15:02:33 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 17 Apr 2009 15:02:33 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id E079750825; Fri, 17 Apr 2009 11:02:32 -0400 (EDT) To: J. =?iso-8859-1?Q?Juli=E1n_Rodr=EDguez?= References: From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 11:02:32 -0400 In-Reply-To: ("J. =?iso-8859-1?Q?Juli=E1n_Rodr=EDguez=22's?= message of "Thu\, 16 Apr 2009 11\:10\:10 +0200") Message-ID: <44fxg7727r.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org, docs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Question about amd64 tier1 status. X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: docs@freebsd.org List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 15:29:14 -0000 J. Juli=E1n Rodr=EDguez writes: > I=B4m a FreeBSD user from 4.0 version to Current (i386 arch). I've recent= ly > switched to a amd64 machine and > consecuently to the amd64 version of the OS. > You claim the amd64 version enjoys "Tier 1 Status", but in the page > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/committers-guide/arch= s.html > under the point "12.2 Tier 1: Fully Supported Architectures" i read: > > "Tier 1 architectures are expected to be fully supported by the ports > system. All the ports should build on a Tier 1 platform, > or have the appropriate filters to prevent the inappropriate ones from > building there. The packaging system must support all > Tier 1 architectures. To ensure an architecture's Tier 1 status, proponen= ts > of that architecture must show that all relevant > packages can be built on that platform." > > > At this moment is not possible to run Wine on a amd64 version of Freebsd = due > to problems of the amd64 kernel handling > segment registers, ldt segments or something like that (too technical for= me > to explain right but the point is > that it doesn=B4t work). No matter which way you try (port, 32 bit packag= e, > etc) there is no report of success as far as i know. > > My question is: > > "Is Wine a non relevant port (I don't thik so) or the amd64 version of > FreeBSD doesn't meet the requirements to be > considered a Tier 1 Architecture ?" My opinion is that the description isn't clear, and could possibly be reworded. Under your interpretation, any ports that might be conceivably be useful on more than one platform would have to build on all Tier 1 platforms. This probably won't ever be possible again on *any* platform, so it isn't really a useful standard to apply. I am redirecting the question to -docs... --=20 Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/