From owner-freebsd-ports Sat Oct 31 06:56:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA03324 for freebsd-ports-outgoing; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 06:56:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA03314; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 06:56:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA15703; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 06:56:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) To: asami@FreeBSD.ORG (Satoshi Asami) cc: mike@smith.net.au, mark@grondar.za, sos@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG, ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Who built XFree86 with Kerberos? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 31 Oct 1998 03:25:05 PST." <199810311125.DAA10351@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 06:56:40 -0800 Message-ID: <15699.909845800@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > very hard to detect on the building machine. The scheduling, which > didn't leave him any time to put the ELF packages up for testing > before the release, is at fault. You can say that again. Despite having plenty of warning, and we're talking several month's worth here, the task was apparently dumped at the very last moment on Justin and Steve. I know that Steve certainly wasn't very happy about how this was done and it certainly took Mike and I by surprise as well - there was some even doubt, for awhile there, as to whether 3.0 would ship with a packages collection at all. In any case, all finger-pointing and indignation aside, if the ports/packages phase of each new release is to occur both on-time and with minimum stress on all concerned, we're going to have to figure out well in advance just who's going to take on the job of physically generating and segregating all the packages and distfiles. I certainly don't want to be scratching my head and trying to figure out who's "job" it's even supposed to be a day before a release is due and the various ports volunteers don't want to be stuck with doing the job on a moment's notice, either. My suggestion would be that we either: a) go to some sort of automation scheme which [re]builds packages on an ongoing basis and, at release time, I just take a snapshot of the collection or b) We try appointing a ports/packages releasemeister who's responsible for doing in ports what I do for src each time a release rolls around. This person could be paid since it's important to Walnut Creek CDROM that packages and distfiles be rendered into ISO images periodically, especially now that we have this "toolkit" CD for FreeBSD in addition to the usual 4 CD sets. Thoughts? - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-ports" in the body of the message