From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 10 07:39:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F262516A400 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 07:39:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lofi@freebsd.org) Received: from mail-in-12.arcor-online.net (mail-in-12.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.52]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75DD513C471 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 07:39:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lofi@freebsd.org) Received: from mail-in-02-z2.arcor-online.net (mail-in-02-z2.arcor-online.net [151.189.8.14]) by mail-in-12.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F7444C397; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 08:39:24 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail-in-01.arcor-online.net (mail-in-01.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.41]) by mail-in-02-z2.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB3BE11434B; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 08:39:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from lofi.dyndns.org (dslb-084-061-173-053.pools.arcor-ip.net [84.61.173.53]) by mail-in-01.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F662106E7C; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 08:39:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from kiste.my.domain (root@kiste.my.domain [192.168.8.2]) by lofi.dyndns.org (8.13.8/8.13.3) with ESMTP id l1A7dJV6013901 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 10 Feb 2007 08:39:19 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from lofi@freebsd.org) Received: from kiste.my.domain (lofi@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kiste.my.domain (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l1A7dIQJ024072; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 08:39:19 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from lofi@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by kiste.my.domain (8.13.6/8.13.4/Submit) id l1A7dIcN024071; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 08:39:18 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from lofi@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: kiste.my.domain: lofi set sender to lofi@freebsd.org using -f From: Michael Nottebrock To: Ian Smith Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 08:39:13 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: In-Reply-To: X-Face: g:jG2\O{-yqD1x?DG2lU1)(v%xffR"p8Nz(w/*)YEUO\Hn%mGi&-!+rq$&r64,=?utf-8?q?fuP=7E=3Bbw=5C=0A=09=5EQdX?=@v~HEAi?NaE8SU]}.oeYSjN84Fe{M(ahZ.(i+lxyP; pr)2[%mGbkY'RmM>=?utf-8?q?+mg3Y=24ip=0A=091?=@Z>[EUaE7tjJ=1DRs~:!uSd""d~:/Er3rpQA%ze|bp>S MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1238318.CFC7pYL9t5"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200702100839.18511.lofi@freebsd.org> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pppd crashes, was: kde-freebsd] Question about KPPP on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 07:39:26 -0000 --nextPart1238318.CFC7pYL9t5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Saturday, 10. February 2007 07:34, Ian Smith wrote: > Since once trying (and failing) to debug or even comprehend a spaghetti > of scripts and configs behind a dialout-only linux pppd setup some years > ago, compared to the much more straightforward ppp with mgetty setup for > both dialout and some dialin modem lines I'd built pretty much from the > FreeBSD Handbook even at 2.2.6 with nary a problem, regressing for sake > of 'compatibility' with a linux-based sub-application seems silly. Well, kppp makes configuring dialout easy. Or attempts to, at least. :) > I agree with you about this not being a KPPP bug (though searching KDE > bugs for 'kppp' provides no shortage of hits!) and appreciate that KDE > people have no interest in catering for user ppp, since it's not linux, > despite or perhaps because of its obvious superiority to FreeBSD people. > > Maybe at least the KPPP 'documentation', such as it is, could at least > mention that it doesn't support FreeBSD's ppp over tun devices, to avoid > the expectation that it should work that gave rise to this thread. It kinda does. It says right in the about dialog and in the very first line= of=20 its online help: "A dialer and front end for pppd". > And yes, if pppd is broken and won't be fixed, it should disappear. And when that happens, so will kppp (it won't build once the if_ppp.h heade= r=20 is gone). Which of course would solve the problem in a way. In any case: I= =20 dragged this issue onto -stable precisely to attract attention to the probl= em=20 and hopefully motivate someone to get down and write some code, whether for= =20 pppd or kppp, I really don't care much. Cheers, =2D-=20 ,_, | Michael Nottebrock | lofi@freebsd.org (/^ ^\) | FreeBSD - The Power to Serve | http://www.freebsd.org \u/ | K Desktop Environment on FreeBSD | http://freebsd.kde.org --nextPart1238318.CFC7pYL9t5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBFzXamXhc68WspdLARAmVjAJ9trtDykd/LwSnJZvc9KHCUV3dsgwCcCgAg qsdmF3M3VcZWmZpqvb7t+6U= =29M8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1238318.CFC7pYL9t5--