From owner-cvs-all Sun Feb 8 20:56:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA29760 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 8 Feb 1998 20:56:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from parkplace.cet.co.jp (parkplace.cet.co.jp [202.32.64.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA29738; Sun, 8 Feb 1998 20:56:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from michaelh@cet.co.jp) Received: from localhost (michaelh@localhost) by parkplace.cet.co.jp (8.8.8/CET-v2.2) with SMTP id EAA19778; Mon, 9 Feb 1998 04:55:14 GMT Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 13:55:14 +0900 (JST) From: Michael Hancock To: Evan Champion cc: "John S. Dyson" , Ollivier Robert , cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-sys@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/conf files options src/sys/i386/conf LINT src/sys/i386/i386 autoconf.c src/sys/kern init_main.c init_sys In-Reply-To: <015201bd2dc9$c7e51f00$2844c00a@cello.synapse.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Fri, 30 Jan 1998, Evan Champion wrote: > >I was supposed to. LFS has fallen out of favor of alot of people who > >supposedly "know." > > Hum... Considering LFS has never worked, I wonder who it fell out of favour > with? For almost every 4.4BSD user, it was never an option to begin with. > Unless it fell out of favour for not working :-) It seemed to have fallen out of favor with a lot of FS people. There are some criticisms in the 4.4 book. These included unpredictable performance and poor performance while the cleaner deamon was running. The cleaner deamon problem reminds me of performance problems on systems that do garbage collection. Larry McVoy has ripped on it quite a bit saying writing at the head is stupid, but I don't know how much of an fs authority he is now days. The problems seem surmountable, but working on lfs would require lots of time. > Having to wait 30 minutes for my servers to fsck sure makes LFS a pretty > appealing idea to me, and it's really too bad that it has been shelved. If > there's something physically wrong with the LFS and someone has a better > idea, that's one thing, but otherwise I hope someone is able to resurrect > LFS soon... FWIW, Kirk McKusick mentioned that fsck-less boot of ffs is his next project. Regards, Mike Hancock > Evan > > -- michaelh@cet.co.jp http://www.cet.co.jp CET Inc., Daiichi Kasuya BLDG 8F, 2-5-12 Higashi Shinbashi, Minato-ku, Tokyo 105 Japan Tel: +81-3-3437-1761 Fax: +81-3-3437-1766 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message