From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Sep 10 15:43:36 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E5A537B400 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 15:43:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jive.SoftHome.net (jive.SoftHome.net [66.54.152.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9CA9743E4A for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 15:43:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yid@softhome.net) Received: (qmail 30598 invoked by uid 417); 10 Sep 2002 22:43:32 -0000 Received: from shunt-smtp-out-0 (HELO softhome.net) (172.16.3.12) by shunt-smtp-out-0 with SMTP; 10 Sep 2002 22:43:32 -0000 Received: from planb ([216.194.2.204]) (AUTH: LOGIN yid@softhome.net) by softhome.net with esmtp; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 16:43:30 -0600 Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 18:43:23 -0400 From: Joshua Lee To: "Neal E. Westfall" Cc: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr, chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Why did evolution fail? Message-Id: <20020910184323.14d0a796.yid@softhome.net> In-Reply-To: <20020910135549.W35938-100000@Tolstoy.home.lan> References: <20020910152817.7ceb1917.yid@softhome.net> <20020910135549.W35938-100000@Tolstoy.home.lan> Organization: Plan B Software Labs X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.2claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.7) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 10 Sep 2002 14:00:40 -0700 (PDT) "Neal E. Westfall" wrote: > > > ROFL. You think Kantian ethics are objective? BTW, please > > > > Kantian ethics are objective, I don't happen to like a few of the > > conclusions it reaches, but they are objective, without placing a > > Kant's whole philosophy was infected with subjectivism. In what way? > > Funny, you being a Protestant, I thought you would like Kant. > > What, you think Kant was a Christian? No, but his point of view is very much old-school Protestant. Keep in mind that his parents were 18th century German Pietists. > What makes you think that? I like the fact that he started asking > the right kinds of questions, given his work on transcendental > arguments, but the problem with Kant is that he still started with > man as his starting point, which is the source of the subjectivism > in his philosophy. No, with Kant, man was his *ending* point, not his starting point. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message