From owner-freebsd-advocacy Mon Jul 10 7:25:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.smed.com (smtp.smed.com [12.20.51.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D71C37B700 for ; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 07:25:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Joe.Warner@smed.com) Received: from smtpgate.shrmed.com (keymaster.smed.com [12.20.51.2]) by smtp.smed.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 755B31619C for ; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 10:24:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from iesa14.shrmed.com (iesa14.shrmed.com [10.1.99.114]) by smtpgate.shrmed.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA16960 for ; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 10:24:51 -0400 From: Joe.Warner@smed.com Received: from Deimos.smed.com (unverified) by iesa14.shrmed.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with SMTP id ; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 10:24:46 -0400 Received: by Deimos.smed.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.5 (863.2 5-20-1999)) id 85256918.004F1C4B ; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 10:24:05 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: SMS To: Greg Lehey Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, magus@magus.users.xmission.com Message-Id: <85256918.004F1A18.00@Deimos.smed.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 08:25:31 -0600 Subject: Re: BSD v. Unix MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I don't remember where exactly, but I have seen FreeBSD referred to as > the "last true Unix." Is this a wholly accurate description? No. I don't think it's even partially accurate for any reasonable definition of "partially". Recall that it shares no code with AT&T UNIX up to and including the Seventh Edition. Greg, Please don't take this personally or view this as critisism but I recently purchased your book, "The Complete FreeBSD", and what an excellent book it is! 8^) After reading the preface, I was under the impression that FreeBSD is a raw UNIX system and has greater rights to call itself UNIX than OS's like Linux because it's not a UNIX clone. I will quote from the preface: "FreeBSD is a high-performance operating system derived from the Berkeley Software Distribution, or BSD, the version of UNIX developed at the University of California at Berkeley between 1975 and 1993. FreeBSD is not a UNIX clone. Historically and technically, it has greater rights than UNIX System V to be called UNIX Legally, it may not be called UNIX, since UNIX is now a registered trade mark of The Open Group. Can you expand on this? Am I missing the mark on this? Were you saying that FreeBSD can still be called UNIX but not the "last true UNIX"? Joe |--------+-----------------------> | | Greg Lehey | | | | | | | | | 07/08/00 | | | 02:19 AM | | | | |--------+-----------------------> >--------------------------------------------------------| | | | To: Anthony Chavez | | | | cc: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG, (bcc: Joe | | Warner/SMS) | | Subject: Re: BSD v. Unix | >--------------------------------------------------------| On Saturday, 8 July 2000 at 2:12:31 -0600, Anthony Chavez wrote: > Fellow advocates: > > I don't remember where exactly, but I have seen FreeBSD referred to as > the "last true Unix." Is this a wholly accurate description? No. I don't think it's even partially accurate for any reasonable definition of "partially". Recall that it shares no code with AT&T UNIX up to and including the Seventh Edition. > Would it be correct to refer to *BSD in such a manner? No. In fact, we don't want to refer to "*BSD" at all: it sounds divisive. BSD without the '*' looks a lot better. As to "the last true UNIX": that way Holy Wars lie. I've most often heard it applied to the Seventh Edition. Greg -- Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message