From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 4 06:04:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C36916A412; Thu, 4 May 2006 06:04:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19EE743D48; Thu, 4 May 2006 06:04:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFB121A3C2F; Wed, 3 May 2006 23:04:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6B67D515D5; Thu, 4 May 2006 02:04:56 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 02:04:56 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway To: Mike Jakubik Message-ID: <20060504060455.GA41929@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <4457A02C.9040408@rogers.com> <20060502182302.GA92027@xor.obsecurity.org> <20060503110503.O58458@fledge.watson.org> <35c231bf0605031821s582b6d03j3ee9d434a596f62a@mail.gmail.com> <20060504021908.GA714@soaustin.net> <35c231bf0605032011s65fbb1aby742438465ee98ee7@mail.gmail.com> <20060504033300.GA39935@xor.obsecurity.org> <44598615.3040400@rogers.com> <20060504044758.GA41047@xor.obsecurity.org> <44599732.1050905@rogers.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="IS0zKkzwUGydFO0o" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <44599732.1050905@rogers.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: Robert Watson , Mark Linimon , stable@freebsd.org, David Kirchner , Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: quota deadlock on 6.1-RC1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 May 2006 06:04:58 -0000 --IS0zKkzwUGydFO0o Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, May 04, 2006 at 01:54:58AM -0400, Mike Jakubik wrote: > Kris Kennaway wrote: > >On Thu, May 04, 2006 at 12:41:57AM -0400, Mike Jakubik wrote: > > =20 > >>Kris Kennaway wrote: > >> =20 > >>>You missed the part where snapshots have caused deadlocks under > >>>varying conditions since day 1. They have never worked 100% reliably, > >>>and despite our best efforts that will remain true with 6.1. > >>> > >>>Kris > >>>=20 > >>> =20 > >>Then why utilize a known non-functional technology? > >> =20 > > > >Because again, the benefits have been judged by the decision-makers > >and found to outweigh the drawbacks. Perhaps that's just a difficult > >concept for some people to understand if they're used to thinking of > >everything in binary terms. > > =20 >=20 >=20 > Yes, i am sorry, but i fail to understand why i would want to use=20 > something that i know does not work correctly. I think there are quite a= =20 > few of those "drawbacks" that are pissed off. If you don't want to use software that isn't 100% perfect, your only hope is to turn off your computer forever. That's my last word on the subject, thanks. Kris --IS0zKkzwUGydFO0o Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFEWZmHWry0BWjoQKURApD0AKCB9SM2fdDdJWcJ+kGZmRSUVVVFiACfQlOR D46BrkOxX/ObCCEuZGgB458= =GjlC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --IS0zKkzwUGydFO0o--