From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Mar 17 11:51:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA01485 for hackers-outgoing; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 11:51:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from jhome.DIALix.COM (root@jhome.DIALix.COM [192.203.228.69]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA01478 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 11:51:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.DIALix.oz.au (peter@localhost.DIALix.oz.au [127.0.0.1]) by jhome.DIALix.COM (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA18743; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 03:51:29 +0800 (WST) Message-Id: <199603171951.DAA18743@jhome.DIALix.COM> X-Authentication-Warning: jhome.DIALix.COM: Host peter@localhost.DIALix.oz.au [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Terry Lambert cc: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au (Michael Smith), freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Aust. ISDN, was Re: Win32 (was:Re: Go SCSI! Big improvement...) In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 17 Mar 1996 12:12:03 MST." <199603171912.MAA19774@phaeton.artisoft.com> Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 03:51:28 +0800 From: Peter Wemm Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >> > > to be "approved", including the software. ie: developing the software >> > > yourself is completely out of the question here. > >[ ... ] > >> > > you and the other users down with it. Result: they dont *dare* let user >s >> > > beat them up via custom software. >> > >> > So buy hardware from the US. It's not like we can install it in >> > our service areas for our own use. 8-). >> >> Connecting such a unit makes you liable for a $12000 fine. Not my >> visualisation of a Good Idea 8) > >I find it hard to believe that you could casually connect a US >manufactured 5ESS Electronic Switching System unless you were the >phone company... or run the AT&T ISDN software on it unless you >owned it. Or substitute the 6Mb/S out, 4Mb/s in cards that AT&T >has that "just plug in" as replacements for the ISDN cards in a >5ESS. Who's talking about switches? The US stuff is incompatable (protocol wise) with ours anyway.. (Our ISDN flavour is closer to the European one, and will be identical soon, once the exchange upgrades are finished). We've been talking about $12,000+ fines for plugging in an ISDN card into a PC and using your own drivers.. >If you are talking cards, well, they can be shoved through the >approval process by an enterprising importer who wants to make >his money on the margins on imported hardware. Not without spending $$$$$$ to redo the firmware on the cards/ta's/etc to do the sufficiently different protocols. You've got to sell a lot of boxes to cover that kind of cost for such a small market. My experiences so far with the imported "multi-market" hardware so far has been terrible. Trying to get it to support some of the.. "unique" requirements to activate semi-permanent flat rate billing has been rather depressing. I hope the Cisco stuff does a better job. > Terry Lambert > terry@lambert.org >--- >Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present >or previous employers. Cheers, -Peter