From owner-freebsd-chat Sat Feb 20 22:39:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from nethammer.qad.org (nethammer.qad.org [195.211.170.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4765010E9D for ; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 22:39:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jonas@nethammer.qad.org) Received: (from jonas@localhost) by nethammer.qad.org (8.9.2/8.9.1) id HAA02838; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 07:38:51 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jonas) To: Jamie Bowden Cc: Brett Glass , chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: More important Windows Refund Day coverage... References: <199902210552.AAA18634@gatekeeper.itribe.net> From: Jonas Luster Organization: Gnus Addict X-URL: http://www.newsbone.org/~jonas/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: 21 Feb 1999 07:38:50 +0100 Message-ID: Lines: 25 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thus spoke Jamie Bowden : > > And, alas, he's not distancing himself from anything "non-GNU;" he's > > attacking it. He even attacked Tim O'Reilly, AT TIM'S OWN CONFERENCE, > > for not giving books away for free. > > So, Tim O'Reilly is supposed to just make books out of thin air? Does > RMS have a connection to reality? Paper, printing presses, binders, ink, > and labour all cost money. Of course, there's far more overhead involved > here that I really don't feel like getting into. RMS, basically, is your out-of-the-box advocatis diaboli. Speaking to him in a more private athmosphere shows his real concerns about Unix and particularly Linux/FreeBSD going more and more the commecrial way without noticing that the roots that e.g. Linux was built on are free and should stay so. Soft voices cannot or will not be heard in this NASDAQ-focussed, Redmond dominated IT-world of ours, take some Linux-Vendors aim for an commercialised, expensive, Linux and RMS' view of the things and you'll find a way between this both extremes. O'Reilly might have been the worst target to chose, but, hey, he got his revenge :). jonas To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message