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[50.178.125.248]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id m6sm9577786igx.9.2014.04.04.16.44.12 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 04 Apr 2014 16:44:13 -0700 (PDT) From: "sindrome" To: "'Robert Huff'" References: <533F36F0.8020803@rcn.com> <000701cf505e$d42d9a20$7c88ce60$@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <000701cf505e$d42d9a20$7c88ce60$@gmail.com> Subject: RE: pkgng vs. portupgrade reporting ports outdated Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2014 18:44:12 -0500 Message-ID: <000301cf505f$c86f8260$594e8720$@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQFAmLT3AK3p1Tt5lpXS+3E115PjcwHo+pjrnBBFIUA= Content-Language: en-us Cc: ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2014 23:44:14 -0000 -----Original Message----- From: sindrome [mailto:sindrome@gmail.com]=20 Sent: Friday, April 04, 2014 6:37 PM To: 'Robert Huff' Cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: RE: pkgng vs. portupgrade reporting ports outdated It is my understanding it is generally a bad idea to mix the old and = new package systems. (It can be done, but it's beyond my pay grade and = if you're asking this I'd guess it is - at the moment - beyond yours.) = "pkgng"=20 can do almost everything the old system can, and does it better. (Now if it only had a replacement for pkg_sort ....) Each records its = status quo in distinct and incompatible ways. When I want to know what needs updating I use: huff>> pkg version -v -l \< which I can send either to a file, or to e-mail, or to a script wrapped = around portmaster. Does this help? Here's more information foo:107:/home/foobar# pkg update Updating repository catalogue foo:108:/home/foobar# pkg upgrade Updating repository catalogue Nothing to do Now when I do a 'pkg_version -v|grep needs' I have=20 foo:109:/home/foobar# pkg_version -v |grep needs it shows 240 ports that = need updating. akonadi-1.11.0_1 < needs updating (port has 1.12.0) analitza-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) apr-1.4.8.1.5.3 < needs updating (port has = 1.5.0.1.5.3) ark-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) avogadro-1.1.1_1 < needs updating (port has = 1.1.1_2) bash-4.2.45_1 < needs updating (port has = 4.3.0_1) blinken-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) bomber-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) bovo-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) ca_root_nss-3.15.4 < needs updating (port has 3.15.5) cantor-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) clang33-3.3_5 < needs updating (port has 3.3_6) cmake-2.8.12.1 < needs updating (port has = 2.8.12.1_4) cups-client-1.5.4_1 < needs updating (port has 1.7.1) cups-image-1.5.4_1 < needs updating (port has 1.7.1) curl-7.35.0 < needs updating (port has 7.36.0) cyrus-sasl-2.1.26_4 < needs updating (port has = 2.1.26_5) dconf-0.14.1 < needs updating (port has = 0.14.1_1) dejavu-2.34_2 < needs updating (port has 2.34_3) docbook-4.1_4 < needs updating (port has 4.5_1) docbook-4.2 < needs updating (port has 4.5_1) docbook-4.3 < needs updating (port has 4.5_1) docbook-4.4_2 < needs updating (port has 4.5_1) docbook-sk-4.1.2_4 < needs updating (port has 5.0_1) docbook-xml-4.3 < needs updating (port has 5.0_1) docbook-xml-4.4_1 < needs updating (port has 5.0_1) docbook-xml-4.5 < needs updating (port has 5.0_1) dragon-player-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) eigen-3.2.0 < needs updating (port has 3.2.1) facile-1.1_2 < needs updating (port has 1.1_3) file-5.16 < needs updating (port has 5.18) filelight-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) flex-2.5.38_2 < needs updating (port has 2.5.39) fping-3.5 < needs updating (port has 3.8) freetype2-2.5.2 < needs updating (port has 2.5.3) gamin-0.1.10_6 < needs updating (port has = 0.1.10_7) ghostscript9-9.06_4 < needs updating (port has 9.06_5) gmp-5.1.3 < needs updating (port has = 5.1.3_1) gnupg1-1.4.16 < needs updating (port has = 1.4.16_1) gnutls-2.12.23_3 < needs updating (port has = 2.12.23_4) granatier-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) gwenview-4.10.5_1 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) imlib2-1.4.6,2 < needs updating (port has = 1.4.6_1,2) isc-dhcp42-server-4.2.6 < needs updating (port has = 4.2.6_1) ja-kiten-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) jovie-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) juk-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) kaccessible-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) kactivities-4.10.5_3 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) kactivitymanagerd-4.10.5_3 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) kajongg-4.10.5_1 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) kalgebra-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) kalzium-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) kamera-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) kanagram-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) kapman-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) kate-4.10.5_1 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) katomic-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) kblackbox-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) kblocks-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) kbounce-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) kbreakout-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) kbruch-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) kcalc-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) kcharselect-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) kcolorchooser-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) kde-base-artwork-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) kde-baseapps-4.10.5_1 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) kde-wallpapers-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) kde-workspace-4.10.5_2 < needs updating (port has 4.11.8) kde4-icons-oxygen-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) kdeaccessibility-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) kdeadmin-4.10.5 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) kdeartwork-4.10.5_1 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) kdeedu-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) kdegames-4.10.5_1 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) kdegraphics-4.10.5_1 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) kdegraphics-mobipocket-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) kdegraphics-strigi-analyzer-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) kdegraphics-svgpart-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) kdegraphics-thumbnailers-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) kdelibs-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) kdemultimedia-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) kdemultimedia-ffmpegthumbs-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) kdenetwork-filesharing-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) kdepimlibs-4.10.5_3 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) kdeplasma-addons-4.10.5_1 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) kdesdk-4.10.5_2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) kdetoys-4.10.5_1 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) kdeutils-4.10.5 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) kdewebdev-4.10.5_1 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) kdf-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) kdiamond-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) kfloppy-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) kfourinline-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) kgamma-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) kgeography-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) kgoldrunner-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) kgpg-4.10.5 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) khangman-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) kig-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) kigo-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) killbots-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) kio-audiocd-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) kiriki-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) kjumpingcube-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) klettres-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) klines-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) kmag-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) kmahjongg-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) kmines-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) kmix-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) kmousetool-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) kmouth-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) kmplot-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) knavalbattle-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) knetwalk-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) kolf-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) kollision-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) kolourpaint-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) konquest-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) konsole-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) kopete-4.10.5_1 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) kpat-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) krdc-4.10.5 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) kremotecontrol-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) kreversi-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) krfb-4.10.5 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) kruler-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) ksaneplugin-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) kscd-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) kshisen-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) ksirk-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) ksnakeduel-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) ksnapshot-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) kspaceduel-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) ksquares-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) kstars-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) ksudoku-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) ksysguardd-4.11.6 < needs updating (port has 4.11.8) ktimer-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) ktouch-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) ktuberling-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) kturtle-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) kubrick-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) kwordquiz-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) libGL-7.6.1_4 < needs updating (port has 9.1.7) libexif-0.6.21 < needs updating (port has = 0.6.21_1) libgcrypt-1.5.3 < needs updating (port has = 1.5.3_1) libiconv-1.14_1 < needs updating (port has 1.14_3) libinotify-20110829 < needs updating (port has = 20120419_2) libkcddb-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) libkcompactdisc-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) libkdcraw-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) libkdeedu-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) libkdegames-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) libkexiv2-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) libkgapi-0.4.4 < needs updating (port has 2.0.1) libkipi-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) libkmahjongg-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) libkonq-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) libksane-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) libtheora-1.1.1_3 < needs updating (port has = 1.1.1_4) libyaml-0.1.4_3 < needs updating (port has 0.1.6) lskat-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) m4-1.4.17,1 < needs updating (port has = 1.4.17_1,1) marble-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) mpfr-3.1.2 < needs updating (port has = 3.1.2_1) mutt-1.5.22 < needs updating (port has = 1.5.23_1) mysql55-client-5.5.36 < needs updating (port has 5.5.37) mysql55-server-5.5.36 < needs updating (port has 5.5.37) nepomuk-core-4.10.5_1 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) nepomuk-core-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) nepomuk-widgets-4.10.5 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) nepomuk-widgets-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) nspr-4.10.3 < needs updating (port has 4.10.4) ocaml-3.12.1_1 < needs updating (port has = 4.00.1_1) okular-4.10.5_3 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) openldap-client-2.4.38 < needs updating (port has 2.4.39) p11-kit-0.20.1 < needs updating (port has 0.20.2) p5-Algorithm-C3-0.08 < needs updating (port has 0.09) p5-Class-C3-0.25 < needs updating (port has 0.26) p5-Class-Method-Modifiers-2.09 < needs updating (port has 2.10) p5-DBD-mysql-4.026 < needs updating (port has 4.027) p5-Data-Dumper-2.145 < needs updating (port has 2.151) p5-Data-Dumper-Concise-2.021_1 < needs updating (port has 2.022) p5-ExtUtils-Helpers-0.021 < needs updating (port has 0.022) p5-GD-2.52 < needs updating (port has 2.53) p5-Getopt-Long-Descriptive-0.096 < needs updating (port has 0.097) p5-IO-Socket-SSL-1.967 < needs updating (port has = 1.975_1) p5-Import-Into-1.002000 < needs updating (port has = 1.002001) p5-Parse-Pidl-4.0.13 < needs updating (port has 4.0.16) p5-namespace-clean-0.24 < needs updating (port has 0.25) pairs-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) palapeli-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) pango-1.34.1_1 < needs updating (port has = 1.34.1_2) parley-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) pciids-20140206 < needs updating (port has = 20140402) perl5-5.16.3_7 < needs updating (port has = 5.16.3_9) pkg-1.2.6 < needs updating (port has = 1.2.7_2) pkgconf-0.9.4 < needs updating (port has 0.9.5) poppler-0.24.4 < needs updating (port has = 0.24.5_1) poppler-qt4-0.24.4 < needs updating (port has 0.24.5) portmaster-3.17.3 < needs updating (port has 3.17.4) postgresql90-client-9.0.16 < needs updating (port has 9.0.17) print-manager-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) py27-Jinja2-2.7.1 < needs updating (port has = 2.7.2_1) py27-MarkupSafe-0.18 < needs updating (port has 0.19) py27-pykde4-4.10.5_1 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) py27-pytz-2013.9_1,1 < needs updating (port has = 2014.1.1,1) py27-sphinx-1.2.1 < needs updating (port has 1.2.2) python27-2.7.6_2 < needs updating (port has = 2.7.6_4) qt4-corelib-4.8.5_2 < needs updating (port has = 4.8.5_3) quazip-0.5.1 < needs updating (port has 0.6.2) raptor2-2.0.13_1 < needs updating (port has = 2.0.13_2) rasqal-0.9.31 < needs updating (port has 0.9.32) rocs-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) rsync-3.1.0_1 < needs updating (port has = 3.1.0_2) ruby-1.9.3.484_1,1 < needs updating (port has = 1.9.3.484_2,1) samba36-3.6.22 < needs updating (port has 3.6.23) serf-1.3.3 < needs updating (port has 1.3.4) sox-14.4.1_2 < needs updating (port has = 14.4.1_3) speex-1.2.r1_5,1 < needs updating (port has = 1.2.r1_6,1) sqlite3-3.8.3.1 < needs updating (port has = 3.8.4.1) step-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) stunnel-4.56 < needs updating (port has 5.00) subversion-1.8.8 < needs updating (port has = 1.8.8_1) sudo-1.8.9.p5 < needs updating (port has = 1.8.10.p2) superkaramba-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) sweeper-4.12.2 < needs updating (port has 4.12.4) syslog-ng-3.4.7 < needs updating (port has = 3.5.4.1) talloc-2.0.8 < needs updating (port has 2.1.0) tevent-0.9.18 < needs updating (port has 0.9.21) vala-vapigen-0.20.1 < needs updating (port has = 0.20.1_1) vim-lite-7.4.182 < needs updating (port has = 7.4.229) webmin-1.670 < needs updating (port has 1.680) xf86-video-intel-2.7.1_6 < needs updating (port has = 2.21.15_1) xorg-server-1.7.7_11,1 < needs updating (port has = 1.12.4_4,1) xplanet-1.3.0_2 < needs updating (port has = 1.3.0_3) xterm-301_1 < needs updating (port has 303)