From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 17 20:54:33 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AF4A0343; Tue, 17 Dec 2013 20:54:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (troutmask.apl.washington.edu [128.95.76.21]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 71E2D1AD8; Tue, 17 Dec 2013 20:54:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (localhost.apl.washington.edu [127.0.0.1]) by troutmask.apl.washington.edu (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id rBHKsXe8046390; Tue, 17 Dec 2013 12:54:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: (from sgk@localhost) by troutmask.apl.washington.edu (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id rBHKsX94046389; Tue, 17 Dec 2013 12:54:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sgk) Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2013 12:54:33 -0800 From: Steve Kargl To: Adrian Chadd Subject: Re: [HEADS UP] xorg version switch in CURRENT Message-ID: <20131217205433.GA46339@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> References: <52AEE215.1060806@freebsd.org> <20131217200756.GA46033@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: ports@freebsd.org, x11@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2013 20:54:33 -0000 On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 12:15:33PM -0800, Adrian Chadd wrote: > On Dec 17, 2013 2:08 PM, "Steve Kargl" > wrote: > > > On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 12:20:53PM +0100, Niclas Zeising wrote: > > > > > > To get VT switching when using KMS drivers (ATI, Intel) please use > > > newcons: https://wiki.freebsd.org/Newcons or if that is not possible, > > > force the use of the vesa driver for xorg. > > > > It appears that newcons is unusable with a static kernel. > > Adding 'device drm2' and 'device i915kms' to my kernel > > config results in a quick death to 'make buldkernel'. > > I'm rapidly wondering if building this way should become unsupported. Too > muxh unknown stuff is needed at startup and wed have to load all firmware > bits to make it remotely work. Well, in that case, it should be formally deprecated, which means it is here for at least the FreeBSD-11 release cycle. I suppose you can try to fast-track the deprecation by having Release Engineering slip a note into the Release Notes of FreeBSD-10. -- Steve