From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Jul 25 22:20:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA14804 for hackers-outgoing; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 22:20:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA14794 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 22:20:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by alpo.whistle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA27231; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 22:12:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from current1.whistle.com(207.76.205.22) via SMTP by alpo.whistle.com, id smtpd027227; Sat Jul 26 05:12:10 1997 Message-ID: <33D986B7.7A5F06AF@whistle.com> Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 22:10:15 -0700 From: Julian Elischer Organization: Whistle Communications X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" CC: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pccard and -current; a long way to go. :-( References: <20225.869879961@time.cdrom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > Well, I've been poking at this on and off for the last 2 days now and > I can say without too much fear of contradiction that getting pccard > support up in -current is no easy job. At least my pccardd no longer > bitches on startup, but it also fails to do anything. :-) > > I also have to seriously question Nate & Mike's assertions that all is > hunky-dory in 2.2.2 land. First off, my LINKSYS and AT&T modem cards > are _not_ supported with the stock 2.2.2 stuff, I've tried that nine > ways to Sunday, and even though upgrading to the latest and greatest > 2.2.2 bits gets me past the card recognition phase, there is still the > pccardd/ifconfig startup race which Nate claimed was not an issue. > Trust me - it's an issue! :-) > > So now I'm left somewhat befuddled as to the best approach to take > here. Normally, this stuff would be developed in -current and all the > new stuff tested there, but we don't _have_ working versions (at least > not that I could test with my available hardware) in -current, so > that's kind of a washout from my perspective. The state of the art > appears to have advanced to relative usability for me in 2.2.2+PAO, on > the other hand, but we don't check new stuff directly into RELENG_2_2 > so that route's kind of out too - I can get a working 2.2+ system out > of this, but it won't be much good from the perspective of advancing > development. > > I'm not sure how closely the Nomads want to work with the FreeBSD > Project on this, but if the answer is "not closely enough to support > -current" then I can see no other alternative but to pursue another, > totally new effort for solving the pccard issues in FreeBSD. > > Any answers? make a branch.. call it RELENG_LAPTOP_2_2 merge it there.. periodically do merges from 2.2 do the same for -current? > > Jordan