From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 16 21:10:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA16DAF2; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 21:10:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ie0-f176.google.com (mail-ie0-f176.google.com [209.85.223.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A58A7E2B; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 21:10:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f176.google.com with SMTP id 13so3445077iea.35 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 13:10:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=nolcdjVd3SNdSk8GRAcsGvSKiwTMnbinLg90i5vq4w4=; b=ug92oaftl7Dx8/lvyXbrh3isJBHFv12eU5iiCMaT5zj1AwPJG4Xlul5FZrWIgXfSoH NSg6I66BLHFla/EXdL2KTquxFQ3O/8NccagBnsiPQFZM02Hn1GtwOQy/uOs21POp2jCs uOHWUAuGXLK1Hyb53BDqxXrlsJGQ6fv/al/xLQzxdbysLiZw3F/+6CghpRacqLhKI3+o Fuj65+Oom6u/05OiAzIFKJOPVhd9XLgzN78IgdOygO1KGxXm2qi3W12N737ipDdKbYYT BYF90KKdN69MwEwPaVpKT1Pa/jJ4Gmpy1bfAa6Qv6o8C5znp2x7YvtEcprZArVR4nIEu 8pkw== X-Received: by 10.50.153.194 with SMTP id vi2mr1963304igb.15.1358370614379; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 13:10:14 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: utisoft@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.16.73 with HTTP; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 13:09:44 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <50463F7F.2030502@shatow.net> From: Chris Rees Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 21:09:44 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: fbhQFL5axPhFRUhFYm_Sw4WVGIc Message-ID: Subject: Re: Plans for making MAKE_JOBS_SAFE the default? To: Eitan Adler Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Olivier Smedts , FreeBSD Ports , Bryan Drewery , Ports Management Team X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 21:10:14 -0000 On 16 January 2013 20:48, Eitan Adler wrote: > On 11 September 2012 12:13, Olivier Smedts wrote: >> 2012/9/4 Bryan Drewery : >>>> My proposal: >>>> - start an exp-run with FORCE_MAKE_JOBS set >>>> - mark all new failures with MAKE_JOBS_UNSAFE >>>> - flip the default right after the 9.1 release. > ... > > It has been months since I sent this mail without any official reply > whatsoever. At this point the exp-run machines are down and not > likely to return in the *near* future. > > Can I propose that this flag be flipped without an exp-run and fix the > fallout? It has been widely tested and has had exp-runs in the past. I think this would be extremely hard to justify, given that the ports tree is a live entity. We would effectively be asking our end users to debug MAKE_JOBS. This is not acceptable; we can't plan to have fallout. Chris