From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 15 07:27:23 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 78151CB6 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2014 07:27:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bizet.nethelp.no (bizet.nethelp.no [195.1.209.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B2B22E8 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2014 07:27:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 23480 invoked from network); 15 Dec 2014 07:20:39 -0000 Received: from bizet.nethelp.no (HELO localhost) (195.1.209.33) by bizet.nethelp.no with SMTP; 15 Dec 2014 07:20:38 -0000 Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2014 08:20:38 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <20141215.082038.41648681.sthaug@nethelp.no> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BIND chroot environment in 10-RELEASE...gone? From: sthaug@nethelp.no In-Reply-To: <20131203.223612.74719903.sthaug@nethelp.no> References: <20131203.223612.74719903.sthaug@nethelp.no> X-Mailer: Mew version 3.3 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2014 07:27:23 -0000 > > > It was a deliberate decision made by the maintainer. He said the chroot > > > code in the installation was too complicated and would be removed as a > > > part of the installation clean-up to get all BIND related files out of > > > /usr and /etc. I protested at the time as did someone else, but the > > > maintainer did not respond. I thnk this was a really, really bad > > > decision. > > > > > > I searched a bit for the thread on removing BIND leftovers, but have > > > failed to find it. > > > > > > > You're probably thinking about my November 17 posting: > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2013-November/075895.html > > > > I'm glad to see others finally speaking up; I was beginning to think I was > > the only one who thought this was not a good idea. I'm a bit surprised > > that no one has responded yet. > > I agree with the protesters here. Removing chroot and symlinking logic > in the ports is a significant disservice to FreeBSD users, and will > make it harder to use BIND in a sensible way. A net disincentive to > use FreeBSD :-( I have now installed my first 10.1 based name server. I had to spend some hours to recreate the changeroot environment that I had so easily available in FreeBSD up to 9.x. Removing the changeroot environment and symlinking logic is a net disservice to the FreeBSD community, and disincentive to use FreeBSD. Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sthaug@nethelp.no