From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 14 16:38:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 405EE16A401; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:38:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (www.unsane.co.uk [85.233.185.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2EF113C45B; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:38:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from [192.168.10.217] (150.117-84-212.staticip.namesco.net [212.84.117.150]) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l2EGbwXN058359 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:37:59 GMT (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <45F824FD.5030502@unsane.co.uk> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:38:21 +0000 From: Vince User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070129) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sean Bryant References: <200703132217.l2DMH0OD051784@ambrisko.com> <25810306.6391173834144834.JavaMail.blogger-tech@ehja28.prod.google.com> <45F81AE8.5000105@cyberwang.net> In-Reply-To: <45F81AE8.5000105@cyberwang.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsdfree.linuxsir@alpha.blogger.com, Kip Macy , Nikolas@freebsd.org, Britton , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Don't buy AMD products (was Re: Xorg and ATI card query.) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:38:35 -0000 Sean Bryant wrote: > Andrew Reilly wrote: >> On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 14:17:00 -0800 (PST) >> Doug Ambrisko wrote: >> >>> One thing that is a plus with nv is that X has some support for it, >>> whereas, the newer ati cards have no support :-( I was a fan of ati >>> since it was easier to get support. Now I'm starting to lean towards >>> Nvidia :-( >>> >> >> Does anyone know if there are *any* contemporary graphics cards >> that have 3D acceleration supported by some flavour of >> open-source x.org? Doesn't have to be a super-fast 'leet gamer >> system to be better than a non-accelerated frame buffer. >> I never thought I'd actually recommend it but.... The Intel 82945GM controller in my laptop has semi ok 3d acceleration. I'm running the experimental xorg 7.2.r3 server with beryl and its running quite nicely. output of glinfo below if anyones interested. The performance doesnt compare to the nvidia drivers on my desktop at home but it does its job, wouldnt want to game on it though. glxgears output: libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x5b 3235 frames in 5.0 seconds = 646.998 FPS 3610 frames in 5.0 seconds = 721.937 FPS 3525 frames in 5.0 seconds = 704.861 FPS ------------------------------ glinfo output: libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x5b GL_VERSION: 1.3 Mesa 6.5.2 GL_EXTENSIONS: GL_ARB_depth_texture GL_ARB_fragment_program GL_ARB_imaging GL_AR B_multisample GL_ARB_multitexture GL_ARB_point_parameters GL_ARB_shadow GL_ARB_t exture_border_clamp GL_ARB_texture_compression GL_ARB_texture_cube_map GL_ARB_te xture_env_add GL_ARB_texture_env_combine GL_ARB_texture_env_crossbar GL_ARB_text ure_env_dot3 GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat GL_ARB_texture_rectangle GL_ARB_tran spose_matrix GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object GL_ARB_vertex_program GL_ARB_window_pos GL_EXT_abgr GL_EXT_bgra GL_EXT_blend_color GL_EXT_blend_equation_separate GL_EX T_blend_func_separate GL_EXT_blend_minmax GL_EXT_blend_subtract GL_EXT_clip_volu me_hint GL_EXT_cull_vertex GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array GL_EXT_convolution GL_EX T_copy_texture GL_EXT_draw_range_elements GL_EXT_fog_coord GL_EXT_histogram GL_E XT_multi_draw_arrays GL_EXT_packed_pixels GL_EXT_point_parameters GL_EXT_polygon _offset GL_EXT_rescale_normal GL_EXT_secondary_color GL_EXT_separate_specular_co lor GL_EXT_shadow_funcs GL_EXT_stencil_wrap GL_EXT_subtexture GL_EXT_texture GL_ EXT_texture3D GL_EXT_texture_edge_clamp GL_EXT_texture_env_add GL_EXT_texture_en v_combine GL_EXT_texture_env_dot3 GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic GL_EXT_textu re_lod_bias GL_EXT_texture_object GL_EXT_texture_rectangle GL_EXT_vertex_array G L_3DFX_texture_compression_FXT1 GL_APPLE_client_storage GL_APPLE_packed_pixels G L_ATI_blend_equation_separate GL_IBM_rasterpos_clip GL_IBM_texture_mirrored_repe at GL_INGR_blend_func_separate GL_MESA_pack_invert GL_MESA_ycbcr_texture GL_MESA _window_pos GL_NV_blend_square GL_NV_light_max_exponent GL_NV_texture_rectangle GL_NV_texgen_reflection GL_NV_vertex_program GL_NV_vertex_program1_1 GL_OES_read _format GL_SGI_color_matrix GL_SGI_color_table GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap GL_SGIS_t exture_border_clamp GL_SGIS_texture_edge_clamp GL_SGIS_texture_lod GL_SGIX_depth _texture GL_SUN_multi_draw_arrays GL_RENDERER: Mesa DRI Intel(R) 945GM 20061017 x86/MMX/SSE2 GL_VENDOR: Tungsten Graphics, Inc GLU_VERSION: 1.3 GLU_EXTENSIONS: GLU_EXT_nurbs_tessellator GLU_EXT_object_space_tess GLUT_API_VERSION: 5 GLUT_XLIB_IMPLEMENTATION: 15 -------- Vince >> > > Try the 'vesa' xorg driver. It may not be fancy or all that accelerated > but it works quite well. I have an nvidia card and cannot get it to work > for the life of me. the drive attached, but nothing happens after that. > It might be the fact that I have a PCI express card. But the vesa driver > is working just fine for me. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"