From owner-freebsd-jail@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 15:34:36 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C710223C for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2015 15:34:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from out3-smtp.messagingengine.com (out3-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.27]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 993331F6 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2015 15:34:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute3.internal (compute3.nyi.internal [10.202.2.43]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id C947A20098 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2015 10:34:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from web3 ([10.202.2.213]) by compute3.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 26 Jan 2015 10:34:29 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=message-id:x-sasl-enc:from:to :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:content-type:in-reply-to :references:subject:date; s=smtpout; bh=ppvvQC6OERJIaKURr0Sbw1Bg 0Fk=; b=jGqXkvBX1WYvOoGgUStCRk8WpyUdnW9fvcfuY1O1QPQ4uupLRZX6wYQE YrPwrro4sNMnd8Ij4hAm8ew8snik/A8AQ6EGJJ1Jdbvkufd/eZNSxheelsFVxQCy 9jShKn1/y0ZKTxFZ1xwVsNepwK5Tv7qOiTMVkO+dEDpLg82lfvI= Received: by web3.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 99) id 9AC481081C6; Mon, 26 Jan 2015 10:34:29 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1422286469.3182385.219013237.42043664@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Sasl-Enc: na3tBktpzlC04G2oxBz/vbjiMDPMfIVGNOAJdINEtJPk 1422286469 From: Mark Felder To: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-46f3f2c7 In-Reply-To: <20150125013753.X33605@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20150123210026.GA45086@mail.michaelwlucas.com> <54C30BEC.3090102@gmail.com> <20150125013753.X33605@sola.nimnet.asn.au> Subject: Re: preferred jail management tool Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2015 09:34:29 -0600 X-BeenThere: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion about FreeBSD jail\(8\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2015 15:34:36 -0000 On Sat, Jan 24, 2015, at 09:16, Ian Smith wrote: > Excuse top-post, but the gmail header on this message was (surprisingly) > insufficiently anonymised to disguise its origin: > That could very well be Joe Barbish. It could also be someone in the same city who uses FreeBSD and likes qjails. Either way, I'm not sure how calling him out for advertising his own work adds any meaningful value to this discussion. And even if he is pushing his product it's not like he's misleading you about the current functional differences between qjail and ezjail... I understand there is bad blood from the forking of ezjail and lack of attribution (which I didn't care to involve myself in), but let's move on. It will either stand on its own merits or it will go the way of the dinosaurs... No point in making our community look so hostile. Thanks for your detailed review, Ernie.