From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 22 09:58:57 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A27B716A4B3 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 09:58:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.198.39]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED20943FDD for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 09:58:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from underway@comcast.net) Received: from localhost.localdomain (12-230-74-101.client.attbi.com[12.230.74.101]) by attbi.com (rwcrmhc13) with ESMTP id <2003092216584101500eu1l0e>; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 16:58:41 +0000 Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8MGv74d060765; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 09:57:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from underway@comcast.net) Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h8MGv1C8060764; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 09:57:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from underway@comcast.net) To: Marc Ramirez References: <20030922104213.L335@www.bluecirclesoft.com> From: underway@comcast.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 09:57:01 -0700 In-Reply-To: <20030922104213.L335@www.bluecirclesoft.com> (Marc Ramirez's message of "Mon, 22 Sep 2003 10:50:07 -0400 (EDT)") Message-ID: <28r828bw2q.828@mail.comcast.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.4 (Portable Code, berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What are people using for MUA's nowadays? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 16:58:57 -0000 Marc Ramirez writes: > So, what are you young hipsters using to read main and filter spam? Gnus in Xemacs. I'm neither young or hip, but 5 or 6 years ago, after several months of cursing the Netscape MUA (and remembering my experience with a primative pine), I spent a few days banging my head against Gnus in Xemacs, and the time investment has paid off wonderfully. You'll need to do a lot of reading of "info" nodes within Xemacs (or Emacs), to use it well. In its config file (eg, gnus.el), you can use regular expressions to split mail into different folders. You could have it put spam in a spam folder, but the normal UI is so easy to use that I'm happy just manually deleting them from my "default" folder (where messages that don't get sent into named folders go). It seems easy enough to detect spam by the "From" and "Subject" info which is displayed in the Gnus "summary" buffer, but you can look at a raw message too, without causing any content to get "executed". Gnus has more commands than you'll ever learn, and you can make it do more (with elisp) if you really need to. A few nice features: -- The best feature is that you have all the features of Xemacs. -- It has pull-down & pop-up menus for very many features, so you don't have to remember as much as you might expect. -- You can easily reformat ">" quotes when replying. -- It shows each person's quote in a different color. -- You can reform a whole message while reading it. -- E-mail and USENET behavior is very similar. Your folders are treated much like newgroups. -- You can group folders and hide ones you aren't using. And list them in a desired order. -- You can have it delete mailing list messages either after reading them or after a certain number of days. -- You can have it show all message date/times in UTC or local instead of what the sender used. -- Flexible control over header content (eg "From:"). -- It can avoid showing you the same msg more than once. -- It can find "referenced" msgs. -- It handles MIME quite well, especially if you tell it to display text/plain when available as it normally is.