From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Aug 5 13:22:46 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8266437B400 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 13:22:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from totem.fix.no (totem.fix.no [80.91.32.29]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1039543E4A for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 13:22:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from anders@totem.fix.no) Received: by totem.fix.no (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E40322025D; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 22:23:11 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 22:23:11 +0200 From: Anders Nordby To: Xavier Beaudouin Cc: Ken McGlothlen , FreeBSD ports list Subject: Re: Current unassigned ports problem reports Message-ID: <20020805202311.GA75731@totem.fix.no> References: <86n0s117bu.fsf@ralf.artlogix.com> <20020805203937.W98637-100000@alpha.home.oav.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020805203937.W98637-100000@alpha.home.oav.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-PGP-Key: http://anders.fix.no/pgp/ X-PGP-Key-FingerPrint: 1E0F C53C D8DF 6A8F EAAD 19C5 D12A BC9F 0083 5956 Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, On Mon, Aug 05, 2002 at 08:43:46PM +0200, Xavier Beaudouin wrote: > I totaly agree with you... I had submitted a port and it was never > commited in the tree... This was make me, at the begining an bit nervous, > angry and now I don't care.. I have made my parallel tree for it... And > I'm waiting... maybe for 10.0-RELEASE some of my ports maybe will be > integrated... > > The only think I'd like to know as port submitter is : why on hell this > that take 9 months to look at a port ? First of all, this is a volunteer project. You can not make anyone do something they don't want. Second, people typically have other things they need to prioritize (sleep, job, girlfriends, friends, socialize, etc.). Third, if none of the committers have an interest in that particular PR, well what do you suggest we do? I know it can be frustrating to not have your PRs looked at, I've been there myself. But anyway, a friendly "can someone look at this", "this port with software foo can really make a difference because x y z and q!" or "i tested this port - it rocks - please commit it!" is much more constructive than "why on hell this..". Committers need motivation too, and ranting over PRs getting older may be demotivating. >> Perhaps another CVS tree (/usr/testports?), where non-committers can test the >> submitted ports and provide feedback? > Maybe this should be a good idea.... What is wrong with testing ports and adding feedback to their PRs in the FreeBSD GNATS database? Many committers have a stroll through open PRs now and then (myself included), and if users have been testing/asking for something to be committed, I would expect the PRs in question to have a better chance of getting committed. Regards, -- Anders. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-ports" in the body of the message