From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Apr 17 14:24:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from lms1.cyber1.net (lms1.cyber1.net [208.206.222.92]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC99C14E02 for ; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 14:24:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pbrezny@cyber1.net) Received: from latitude (laptop.cyber1.net [10.4.2.200]) by lms1.cyber1.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA12539 for ; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 17:21:29 -0400 Reply-To: From: "Peter Brezny" To: Subject: RE: cheapo 56k hardware Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 17:24:09 -0400 Message-ID: <000101be8918$a2235ec0$c802040a@latitude.cyber1.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org depending on where you are, there are a lot of telco's that will resell their access. (even uunet). bell south for example resells their 56k dialups for 14.95/mo to small isp's that want to support their dialup customers, but don't want to spend $50k on an ascend max to plug in a PRI. that's what i would do, call the telco in your area and see if they have any offers. Peter Brezny Purplecat.net -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Chuck Robey Sent: Saturday, April 17, 1999 5:11 PM To: Bill Vermillion Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cheapo 56k hardware On Sat, 17 Apr 1999, Bill Vermillion wrote: > The problem you have is that any digital modem at 56K as the ISP is > going to require a PRI (most probably) and a device that > interfaces. > > 56K modems can't be used at the ISP because 56K to 56K is limited > to 33.3K > > > If this is a multithousand buck answer, it's not gooing to be > > really practical, so please don't make gold plated suggestions > > without awfully good reasons behind it (better than just enhanced > > reliability). > > 56K requires a digital link from the ISP through telco, to > destination so there is no D/A conversion. The home to ISP > is analog and therefore requires a D/A at the home and an A/D at > the ISP. Doing two AtoD and DtoA conversions limits you to 33.3. > > It's not going to be cheapo. You can find all sorts of devices on > the used marked below 56K - but the last time I looked the 56K > devices were still pretty expensive in comparison. Ahh. The ISP in question has a 128K frame relay line, but that would be a drop in the bucket. So he has to go buy the service from the telco? Or he has to have a T1 from the telco, those are the alternatives? Yecch! > > > > -- > bill@bilver.magicnet.net | bv@wjv.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@picnic.mat.net | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run picnic (FreeBSD-current) (301) 220-2114 | and jaunt (Solaris7). ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message