From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 4 16:47:11 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B38551065673 for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 16:47:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f175.google.com (mail-qy0-f175.google.com [209.85.216.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 661268FC14 for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 16:47:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyc1 with SMTP id 1so1345692qyc.13 for ; Fri, 04 Nov 2011 09:47:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=YeOklDmImYtnZtRvRLvOSsvUql6VZ63Pdabft/kvGQA=; b=JMO+ZkrQumu3qI+WdKghTM80Dj18TThlIB6GVZEncHZWWN7rDVOROoIK9Jsfk3G888 K5QhbnYvQLuX4gP6Te0iSuBhp7957xU9Cilut5/Bp80K48dtAMX9OdQIWiM18bpShbgP 9bB7Yzih3rqkqMoXmtkyYBPu+vmhKi5n9uKKY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.169.97 with SMTP id ad1mr13120196igc.35.1320425230532; Fri, 04 Nov 2011 09:47:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.11.140 with HTTP; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 09:47:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.11.140 with HTTP; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 09:47:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <000e01cc9b0f$6dfacef0$49f06cd0$@com> References: <4EAB2D38.4040200@feral.com> <003101cc95ca$80ec8b60$82c5a220$@com> <000e01cc9b0f$6dfacef0$49f06cd0$@com> Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2011 16:47:10 +0000 Message-ID: From: Chris Rees To: Pegasus Mc Cleaft Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: mj@feral.com, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, "Lyndon Nerenberg \(VE6BBM/VE7TFX\)" Subject: RE: Adding disk firmware programming capability to camcontrol X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2011 16:47:11 -0000 On 4 Nov 2011 16:33, "Pegasus Mc Cleaft" wrote: > > >> > >> To me, the only difference between borking a drive because of > >> bad firmware and typing "rm -rf *" from root is about =A340. You stil= l > >> lose at least a day rebuilding/restoring everything. > >> > > > >You clearly haven't bought a hard drive recently. > > > >Chris > > Laughs! > > Yea, trust karma to insert my foot into my mouth when I open it to > speak 8-) > Never mind ;) I do take issue with this viewpoint however; in documentation this is the difference between Caution (you may lose data) and Warning (you may break your hardware). Why should the software be inconsistent with the hardware? I think an option *specifically for this task* would be useful as confirmation. I'm really sorry for bikeshedding; the code and idea is excellent, but I feel this issue is important! Chris