From owner-freebsd-jail@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 16:57:53 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AEF8D190 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2015 16:57:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from out3-smtp.messagingengine.com (out3-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.27]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7DD826A8 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2015 16:57:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute4.internal (compute4.nyi.internal [10.202.2.44]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1183D20817 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2015 11:57:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from web5 ([10.202.2.215]) by compute4.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 27 Jan 2015 11:57:46 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=message-id:x-sasl-enc:from:to :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:content-type:subject :date:in-reply-to:references; s=smtpout; bh=3Cj0tkPPA6FEO/wLsJkM yaXR82g=; b=HasvtY5zrzTrJtR9p5x1CL4MDj/zTaF3zKeEX3FZlVPJPZzpIT1l w7zcsRrvjCKuJ1M21bXguUkjEh8ddox7BhiU3K2qsWW7gT2zx3EaM6O6Ps3J/gA+ 4RnuwLtMat2B5721WfNdryVQrjTTiVB2u2nCDPDheFkSm90VCMuAXxw= Received: by web5.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 99) id DF85EA67F0A; Tue, 27 Jan 2015 11:57:45 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1422377865.3055728.219576589.684C5A1B@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Sasl-Enc: Vr9+yPqNQ+ik5erMeWfzk1WJL6yzYKmhaZF9xB4dGm9C 1422377865 From: Mark Felder To: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-46f3f2c7 Subject: Re: preferred jail management tool Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 10:57:45 -0600 In-Reply-To: References: <20150127012347.GA4940@lonesome.com> <20150127141239.V77290@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <54C7958B.40007@gmail.com> X-BeenThere: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion about FreeBSD jail\(8\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 16:57:53 -0000 On Tue, Jan 27, 2015, at 10:12, Alejandro Imass wrote: > On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 8:41 AM, Ernie Luzar wrote: > > > Ian Smith wrote: > > > > In my opinion any port that does not include complete documentation in > > its man pages is next to useless and many people agree. Ezjail man pages > > lack documentation on 98 percent of its functions. I do not see HOW a book > > on jails can recommend a tool with > > such poor documentation. Doing so would put the creditability of every > > thing written in the book in doubt and NO author wants to get > > mud in their face for failing to completely understand the unpublished > > background of the subject targeted to write about. > > > > > Not sure what you are talking about here. I started using EzJail 8 years > ago just by reading the project Web page and I use man ezjail-admin _all > the time_ (my memory is pretty bad so I use this man page constantly). > Not > sure what the 98% missing functions are. There is basically a single > command and at least all the functions I use are in that single man page. > > I'll admit that last time I used ezjail I found it frustratingly difficult to locate concise documentation on exactly how flavours worked, and how to use scripts to do things to the new jails as well as copying in the files I wanted. Maybe I just didn't look hard enough, though.