From owner-freebsd-arch Thu Apr 6 15: 5:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.yes.no (ns1.yes.no [195.204.136.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEDC237C1F2 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 15:05:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eivind@bitbox.follo.net) Received: from bitbox.follo.net (bitbox.follo.net [195.204.143.218]) by ns1.yes.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA10668 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 00:09:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from eivind@localhost) by bitbox.follo.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) id AAA34077 for freebsd-arch@freebsd.org; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 00:05:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp03.primenet.com (smtp03.primenet.com [206.165.6.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AB5A37C1FC; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 15:01:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert@usr08.primenet.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp03.primenet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA15415; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 15:00:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr08.primenet.com(206.165.6.208) via SMTP by smtp03.primenet.com, id smtpdAAAWvaWdE; Thu Apr 6 15:00:47 2000 Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr08.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA18343; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 15:01:17 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <200004062201.PAA18343@usr08.primenet.com> Subject: Re: Import of tcsh into src/contrib/, replacing src/usr.bin/csh To: obrien@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 22:01:17 +0000 (GMT) Cc: nate@yogotech.com (Nate Williams), arch@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20000406144502.A25177@dragon.nuxi.com> from "David O'Brien" at Apr 06, 2000 02:45:02 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Thu, Apr 06, 2000 at 03:21:07PM -0600, Nate Williams wrote: > > 2) FreeBSD's base installation is *NOT* intended for you to have a > > completely/fully functional workstaion. > > I don't want a fully functional workstation. I want a root account that > is useful. I am also tired of explaining to Linux users why our /bin/csh > doesn't have as nice a UI as tcsh. After you are done, then you can have them explain to you why their shell scripts that run on Linux's "/bin/sh" don't run on other UNIX systems. I think putting in tcsh as csh would be putting FreeBSD in the same position of having a shell where script authors think they are using features which are available everywhere, but are specific to the "enhanced" shell, and will therefore only run on systems where "/bin/csh" is replaced with tcsh. Further, there is the PicoBSD issue. I think doing this would be as heinous a crime as replacing "/bin/ls" with colorls. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message