From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 27 16:17:56 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A184106566B for ; Thu, 27 Oct 2011 16:17:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from mail-vx0-f182.google.com (mail-vx0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 498268FC0A for ; Thu, 27 Oct 2011 16:17:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vcbfo13 with SMTP id fo13so4044292vcb.13 for ; Thu, 27 Oct 2011 09:17:55 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.117.79 with SMTP id p15mr1069705vcq.119.1319732275314; Thu, 27 Oct 2011 09:17:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.194.194 with HTTP; Thu, 27 Oct 2011 09:17:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [93.221.183.204] In-Reply-To: <20111027172944.75a96733.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <15996.1319704110@tristatelogic.com> <1319712142.89939.YahooMailNeo@web36507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20111027172944.75a96733.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 18:17:55 +0200 Message-ID: From: "C. P. Ghost" To: Polytropon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Bill Tillman , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Fast personal printing _without_ CUPS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 16:17:56 -0000 On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 5:29 PM, Polytropon wrote: > BUT: CUPS seems to be hardcoded into many applications > today. They stopped working with the non-CUPS default > system tools. An example is Opera. Another one is Gimp > which works with system lp* tools, but has hardcoded > queries to "lpstat" (a CUPS program that doesn't exist > or "cannot connect to the server"). The upcoming question > here is: WHY??? (...) > CUPS also has program names that are derived from LPR's > competitor. The "lpstat" command is such an example, and > I think "lpadmin" also is. lpstat and lpadmin are standard SysV tools for printing. They existed LONG before CUPS: http://developers.sun.com/solaris/articles/print/sol_lp1.html Please note that there are two distinct toolsets for (traditional) UNIX printing: * lpr tools for BSD printing * lp tools for SysV printing Please don't call the BSD lpr toolset "lp tools", that's pretty confusing to us old-gen sysadmins. ;-) Regards, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/