From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 4 09:02:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B180716A403 for ; Thu, 4 May 2006 09:02:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwatson@FreeBSD.org) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [209.31.154.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 574A943D46 for ; Thu, 4 May 2006 09:02:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rwatson@FreeBSD.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [209.31.154.41]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F19AE46D30; Thu, 4 May 2006 05:01:59 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 10:01:59 +0100 (BST) From: Robert Watson X-X-Sender: robert@fledge.watson.org To: David Kirchner In-Reply-To: <35c231bf0605032005n4fe38769v9637a9393efb791a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20060504100110.P17611@fledge.watson.org> References: <20060502171853.GG753@dimma.mow.oilspace.com> <20060502172225.GA90840@xor.obsecurity.org> <20060502174429.GH753@dimma.mow.oilspace.com> <44579EE1.6010300@rogers.com> <20060502180557.GA91762@xor.obsecurity.org> <4457A02C.9040408@rogers.com> <20060502182302.GA92027@xor.obsecurity.org> <20060503110503.O58458@fledge.watson.org> <35c231bf0605031821s582b6d03j3ee9d434a596f62a@mail.gmail.com> <20060504014241.GA38346@xor.obsecurity.org> <35c231bf0605032005n4fe38769v9637a9393efb791a@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: stable@freebsd.org, Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: quota deadlock on 6.1-RC1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 May 2006 09:02:00 -0000 On Wed, 3 May 2006, David Kirchner wrote: > I wouldn't dare suggest that all bugs must be fixed prior to a new release, > but I will suggest that releases could be delayed to fix critical bugs that, > under a completely stock and default installation: stop the filesystem from > functioning, report no errors to the user, and require that the user > hard-reset their computer. At the very least, the defaults could be modified > such that Joe Average User won't be affected by it, and those that want > cutting-edge features like snapshots, background fscks, etc. can enable > them. This should result in fewer headaches for users and those that help > them. Additionally, the users that want these new features are likely those > that are already running -STABLE, so it's a lot easier and more practical > for them to try the latest incremental updates, as necessary. Quotas aren't in the default configuration. To enable quotas, you must rebuild your kernel. Not that I don't think they're important, but they don't actually fit in the category you're talking about. Robert N M Watson