From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 27 16:25:19 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11D511065673; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 16:25:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pukruppa@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 627128FC08; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 16:25:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so3939936bwz.13 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 09:25:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=csfao0UPWjm6cNczwoxLMhu2mk/qwVOiJeSmSGddqkw=; b=nDsY/8dpKAXAwsWFUVYjiXUdE3+dm1Wp6c6nyybOCYod8iiBJZbbxulU+cP0z607q4 ycN0vBpzPJaVEkU2U1swNEdZV/HM+l4IXX/IWmblKavKjJtC5KFInCD4IGuZwhAnZ2HY 2ZHzydoiSu/qyCDB1zmWXaLihydaHQ8BB6b7g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=hKYQ2rdujNXfW3zNZZNvntEhCzL7i7VwmaETLXIe8yCs6LPh0lauz/VtHpgOSNRSQx ILhKsfNo2NYMlJV3EcfJ7otM3dDEaE9M0BPcB0wgQO2kxxhvlhZ2iUfufyp2xsj6d6MG pqV5Pxo7yMrvqqV+DxBG4ZCpT/z1jeyQul1Qw= Received: by 10.204.153.10 with SMTP id i10mr7031321bkw.1.1280246344187; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 08:59:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pukruppa.de (pd95cabe3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [217.92.171.227]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y27sm3929385bkw.14.2010.07.27.08.59.03 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 27 Jul 2010 08:59:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C4F030D.4090208@googlemail.com> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 18:02:21 +0200 From: "Kruppa, Peter Ulrich" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; de-DE; rv:1.9.1.10) Gecko/20100726 Thunderbird/3.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andy Balholm References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: perrin@apotheon.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, mckusick@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 16:25:19 -0000 Am 27.07.2010 17:23, schrieb Andy Balholm: > Chad Perrin wrote: > >> Andy Balholm wrote: >> >>> although the UNIX term "daemon" is not satanic in origin, some aspects >>> of Beastie's appearance are obviously derived from traditional >>> depictions of the Devil. >>> >> Really? Are you sure they weren't derived from something else -- perhaps >> a source in common for the "traditional" depictions of the devil? There >> may be a common source for both, rather than one being the source of the >> other. Correlation does not imply causation. Did you ask the original >> Beastie artist for confirmation that he was consciously emulating images >> of the Christian devil, or did you just jump to a conclusion like the OP? >> > I jumped to a conclusion, but I'll stand by it until someone shows me the ancient common source. I don't recall anything that looks much like Beastie in Greek art. > Perhaps there are some ancient depictions/sculptures of the greek god Pan (god of the shepherds) around? Pan partially resembles a goat. Greetings Uli. > When someone in the modern western culture decides to draw a daemon and it comes out looking like a "demon," the most plausible explanation is that he was influenced—consciously or unconsciously—by this culture's traditional way of depicting demons. In fact, not being influenced by that tradition would take a conscious effort. So I find that far more likely than an obscure common source. > > Note that I am not attributing the resemblance to any "fiendish" motives. I expect the artist just found the pun too good to pass up. I'll CC him in case he wants to comment on his sources, since you think he should be asked. > > Andy Balholm > (509) 276-2065 > andy@balholm.com > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >