From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG  Mon Nov 24 18:07:58 2003
Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG>
Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125])
	by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D9C016A4CE
	for <freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org>;
	Mon, 24 Nov 2003 18:07:58 -0800 (PST)
Received: from gw.catspoiler.org (217-ip-163.nccn.net [209.79.217.163])
	by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 241C643FF3
	for <freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org>;
	Mon, 24 Nov 2003 18:07:57 -0800 (PST)
	(envelope-from truckman@FreeBSD.org)
Received: from FreeBSD.org (mousie.catspoiler.org [192.168.101.2])
	by gw.catspoiler.org (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAP27MeF009247;
	Mon, 24 Nov 2003 18:07:26 -0800 (PST)
	(envelope-from truckman@FreeBSD.org)
Message-Id: <200311250207.hAP27MeF009247@gw.catspoiler.org>
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 18:07:22 -0800 (PST)
From: Don Lewis <truckman@FreeBSD.org>
To: doconnor@gsoft.com.au
In-Reply-To: <200311251214.23290.doconnor@gsoft.com.au>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii
cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org
cc: dnelson@allantgroup.com
cc: gallatin@cs.duke.edu
Subject: Re: 40% slowdown with dynamic /bin/sh
X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1
Precedence: list
List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current
	<freebsd-current.freebsd.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current>,
	<mailto:freebsd-current-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current>
List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-current@freebsd.org>
List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-current-request@freebsd.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current>,
	<mailto:freebsd-current-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 02:07:58 -0000

On 25 Nov, Daniel O'Connor wrote:
> On Tuesday 25 November 2003 11:52, Dan Nelson wrote:
>  > > I'd greatly prefer that the the dynamic root default be backed out
>> > > until a substantial amount of this performance can be recovered.
>> >
>> > What _REAL WORLD_ task does this slow down?
>>
>> Try timing "cd /usr/ports/www/mozilla-devel ; make clean" with static
>> and dynamic /bin.  bsd.port.mk spawns many many many /bin/sh processes.
> 
> OK my bad, it will probably slow down the ports building.

The ports infrastructure is horribly slow even with a static sh, though
not as glacially slow as installing and patching Solaris 9.