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[174.109.231.236]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id x36sm15467136qtd.97.2020.06.16.10.07.18 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 16 Jun 2020 10:07:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (hp-envy.seibercom.net [192.168.1.102]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 49mZPd5XSyz4SKQ for ; Tue, 16 Jun 2020 13:07:17 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2020 13:07:10 -0400 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mailing List Etiquette was freebsd vs. netbsd Message-ID: <20200616130710.00002909@seibercom.net> In-Reply-To: References: <20200613154409.GA89618@neutralgood.org> <20200616140416.bd7b8bf2.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200616142043.7d599458.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200616144141.6203d978e9bd43418b17dcbc@sohara.org> <20200616170906.9c0bb6c7.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200616175118.2d536f55.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200616123659.000025a6@seibercom.net> Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.4 (GTK+ 2.24.32; i686-w64-mingw32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; boundary="Sig_/+lx8Imo8S17pTaJSVZ8Brar"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49mZPk2Kphz4NvZ X-Spamd-Bar: ++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=seibercom.net header.s=google header.b=qriLfjdG; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of jerry@seibercom.net designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::841 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=jerry@seibercom.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [2.27 / 15.00]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[seibercom.net:+]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.20)[-0.199]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[174.109.231.236:received]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_TO_ADDR(5.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.94)[-0.943]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[seibercom.net:s=google]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.99)[-0.986]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[seibercom.net]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::841:from]; GREYLIST(0.00)[pass,meta]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2020 17:07:23 -0000 --Sig_/+lx8Imo8S17pTaJSVZ8Brar Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 16 Jun 2020 12:44:12 -0400, Aryeh Friedman commented: >On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 12:37 PM Jerry wrote: > >> On Tue, 16 Jun 2020 17:51:18 +0200, Polytropon commented: =20 >> >And instead of employing good programmers, they employ designers >> >so at least the ad-filled emails look good, even if it doesn't >> >help anyone. :-) =20 >> >> You obviously know very little about the retail market. In sales, >> perceived quality is often in a direct relationship to the outward >> appearance of an item. >> =20 > >FreeBSD is not a retail OS!.... in short for many reasons f**k retail >computing... like I said dead users don't give a flying f how good >something looks if it kills them! (Just ask anyone who started smoking >because of how sexy the ad models were before tobacco ads were >outlawed.).... in sort FreeBSD is a mission critical OS meant for >professional use (if you use for desktop use like I do then it is >purely accidental to its primary purpose). You reply is totally out of context to the my response to Poly. Neither Poly nor I referenced FreeBSD in the post. The response was directed at advertisers and the means they use to convey an idea to the public. Your problem is that you are looking for problems where none exist, aka "Tilting at windmills". --=20 Jerry --Sig_/+lx8Imo8S17pTaJSVZ8Brar Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEIQb/tTwl6I1ueEVtOHMGOIfexWQFAl7o/D8ACgkQOHMGOIfe xWT8GQf+JIsxhYs7edoOnBgLWkkKsIqRn803uk5Jg2vSeno4l/zv4Mer68DaYYgt 4RK57wGpPbuY/0EcOjKqfN7Lc8rVoXspnxN+3LD3AeYU8xJ15wYVOGrqKjBv+yJQ /1aVz3Hc0pu/BJonS1ofSGxizmeh4xf9a1eiP0JivY3Ok/XcJ1C1s2Mkp61lNim4 4AdgBFvhjYLd8E/c5qYnU5iT6CrGWcsMe8UsSr6Fzr7Uaqx9S95cWw9ZsVM5+CmC 0fo5S5jTxrLysdAVJh6wnl/yU07IK1lnFw5C8grNRxmSWf248RNOhozYT+yOjBPR b4DvlAcT4rtf51aUb4tcanH3k/X5YQ== =8I+s -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/+lx8Imo8S17pTaJSVZ8Brar--